You know that Uncle Ho worked in a restaurant in Boston for awhile back
when?
--R
On 4/12/2011 11:22 AM, Peter Frederick wrote:
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From: WILTON<wilt...@nc.rr.com>
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Hanoi
I had very strong feelings about it from the beginning ('62, '63, etc.), and
thought that we should not get involved, or if we were going to be involved,
it should be resolved quickly and decisively. It was very frustrating to me
to so easily see "it" coming, but the government know-it-alls could not seem
to see it. Well, we got involved slowly and gradually and the government
"played" at war for over 10 years; we finally really fought the war for only
those 11 days, quickly and decisively, in Dec '72.
The Vietnam war ranks with slavery and the Civil War as one of the nation's
greatest tragedies. (Slavery #1, Civil War #2, Vietnam War #3)
Wilton
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From: "Rich Thomas"<richthomas79td...@constructivity.net>
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Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Hanoi
"My dad was here several times in the 70s but never stopped to visit"
It is interesting how the world changes, the filthy godless commie reds
took over, and now look at them. Hardly seems worth it, huh?
--R
On 4/12/2011 10:19 AM, WILTON wrote:
# 2 son is in Hanoi right now for 10 days on photography assignment. On
my several trips there in Dec, 1972, the locals were very serious about
trying to kill me. They didn't seem to appreciate the 108 500 and
750-pound "calling cards" I left each time. 'Glad son can visit under
much friendlier circumstances.
Wilton
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I would agree -- one of the monumental stupidities in American history. If you have not
done so, read "The March of Folly", forget the author. Pretty good analysis.
We were warned, too, by the French, who gave up on trying to maintain their
colony there after we gave it back to them via the Japanese after WWII. They
got their nose bloodied badly in Algeria, and decided not to do the same thing
again in Vietnam just to have a colony of dubious value.
Unfortunately, the wacko anti-communists got all fired up about it and decided that Uncle
Ho was going to be a mouthpiece for Stalin (who was dead already, after all) and the
world was going to fall into a Godless State and we would all burn in hell or something.
Dubious logic (see "Tea Party, 2010") but once we started, we couldn't stop,
even when the President decided to get out (and was subsequently assassinated) and the
people in charge all had serious doubts.
Uncle Ho, of course, FOUGHT the Japanese during WWII, and was winning, just like Mao,
while our allies in the Far East were either stealing everything we gave them or
accommodating the Japanese to keep their fiefdoms. The best part of that story is that Ho
Chi Minh didn't become a communist until the early 1920s, when he was bodily thrown down
the front steps of the League of Nations in Paris for demanding to know when the Asian
colonies were going to become self-governing nations. He was bluntly informed that the
"bastard yellow races" were incapable of governing themselves, in spite of the
fact that the Vietnamese had tossed the Chinese out several times. He was also the only
communist in the North Vietnam government until the late 1960s when the war started
tearing the nation apart.
Truly a lesson in hubris and the dangers of folly.....
Peter
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