Would have been WAY back when -- he lived in France from 1903 to 1931 or 32.
Didn't leave Vietnam that I know of after WWII.
-----Original Message-----
>From: Rich Thomas <richthomas79td...@constructivity.net>
>Sent: Apr 12, 2011 11:25 AM
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>Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Hanoi
>
>You know that Uncle Ho worked in a restaurant in Boston for awhile back
>when?
>
>--R
>
>On 4/12/2011 11:22 AM, Peter Frederick wrote:
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: WILTON<wilt...@nc.rr.com>
>>> Sent: Apr 12, 2011 9:43 AM
>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List<mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Hanoi
>>>
>>> I had very strong feelings about it from the beginning ('62, '63, etc.), and
>>> thought that we should not get involved, or if we were going to be involved,
>>> it should be resolved quickly and decisively. It was very frustrating to me
>>> to so easily see "it" coming, but the government know-it-alls could not seem
>>> to see it. Well, we got involved slowly and gradually and the government
>>> "played" at war for over 10 years; we finally really fought the war for only
>>> those 11 days, quickly and decisively, in Dec '72.
>>>
>>> The Vietnam war ranks with slavery and the Civil War as one of the nation's
>>> greatest tragedies. (Slavery #1, Civil War #2, Vietnam War #3)
>>>
>>> Wilton
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Rich Thomas"<richthomas79td...@constructivity.net>
>>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List"<mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 10:26 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Hanoi
>>>
>>>
>>>> "My dad was here several times in the 70s but never stopped to visit"
>>>>
>>>> It is interesting how the world changes, the filthy godless commie reds
>>>> took over, and now look at them. Hardly seems worth it, huh?
>>>>
>>>> --R
>>>>
>>>> On 4/12/2011 10:19 AM, WILTON wrote:
>>>>> # 2 son is in Hanoi right now for 10 days on photography assignment. On
>>>>> my several trips there in Dec, 1972, the locals were very serious about
>>>>> trying to kill me. They didn't seem to appreciate the 108 500 and
>>>>> 750-pound "calling cards" I left each time. 'Glad son can visit under
>>>>> much friendlier circumstances.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wilton
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>> I would agree -- one of the monumental stupidities in American history. If
>> you have not done so, read "The March of Folly", forget the author. Pretty
>> good analysis.
>>
>> We were warned, too, by the French, who gave up on trying to maintain their
>> colony there after we gave it back to them via the Japanese after WWII.
>> They got their nose bloodied badly in Algeria, and decided not to do the
>> same thing again in Vietnam just to have a colony of dubious value.
>>
>> Unfortunately, the wacko anti-communists got all fired up about it and
>> decided that Uncle Ho was going to be a mouthpiece for Stalin (who was dead
>> already, after all) and the world was going to fall into a Godless State and
>> we would all burn in hell or something. Dubious logic (see "Tea Party,
>> 2010") but once we started, we couldn't stop, even when the President
>> decided to get out (and was subsequently assassinated) and the people in
>> charge all had serious doubts.
>>
>> Uncle Ho, of course, FOUGHT the Japanese during WWII, and was winning, just
>> like Mao, while our allies in the Far East were either stealing everything
>> we gave them or accommodating the Japanese to keep their fiefdoms. The best
>> part of that story is that Ho Chi Minh didn't become a communist until the
>> early 1920s, when he was bodily thrown down the front steps of the League of
>> Nations in Paris for demanding to know when the Asian colonies were going to
>> become self-governing nations. He was bluntly informed that the "bastard
>> yellow races" were incapable of governing themselves, in spite of the fact
>> that the Vietnamese had tossed the Chinese out several times. He was also
>> the only communist in the North Vietnam government until the late 1960s when
>> the war started tearing the nation apart.
>>
>> Truly a lesson in hubris and the dangers of folly.....
>>
>> Peter
>>
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