I do gravity bleeding also.  Its work fine on all my vehicles.

Brian


On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 6:04 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

> THat sounds like a truly good, simple (and inexpensive system.  Thanks.
>
> for draining old fluid, I have had good luck just opening the bleeders and
> letting gravity do the work, as long as I am not in a hurry.  (Leave it
> overnight etc.)  Then with the bleeders still open, Pour new fluid in, and
> close each bleeder as it gets fluid.  Again, fill the res. to the full mark,
> and let it sit at least as long as you did to drain...  Test the brakes
> after the wait.  In most cases, there is no air in the system.  BTW< this
> worked on the SDL with ABS when I changed over to Silicone fluid (DOT 5).
>
>
>  Over the past 40 years I have owned, I believe, every pressure bleed brake
>> system, vacuum bleed system, and every other crackpot tool invented to
>> bleed
>> brakes.  They now all reside on my tool collection board of tools that
>> cost
>> loads of money, don't work well [or not at all] and "I would never buy
>> again.
>>
>> Some years ago I started using a system that DOES work well, Doesn't cost
>> much, and so far hasn't failed me.  It allows me to bleed both hydraulic
>> clutch systems and brake systems without a helper,  truly one man.  Since
>> I
>> started using it, I now change out the hydraulic fluids as a regular
>> scheduled item.
>>
>> Here is how it works for me:
>>
>> 1. Open the master cylinder cover, lay a clean cloth over it [stray
>> dirt/bugs/etc are forbidden]
>>
>> 2.
>> Hook a common squeeze bulb [like you siphon gas into your lawn mower with]
>> to the bleed nipple farthest from the master cylinder [play with fuel line
>> hose sizes to get it done for your particular application]... drop the
>> exit
>> hose into a receiving container [you are going to dispose of it right?]
>>  If
>> you already have a hand vacuum pump with a receiver bottle... that can
>> work
>> as well.
>>
>> 3. Squeeze pump the old fluid out of the master cylinder till it's empty,
>> repeat operation 2. for each bleed nipple to evacuate each line from the
>> master to wheel cylinder.
>>
>> 4. Wipe clean all the "gunk" left inside the Master Cylinder. [I often use
>> spray brake cleen at this point to get all the slime, then carefully dry
>> it
>> out]
>>
>> 5. Using an old fashioned metal hand pump oil can [like your grandfather
>> had... they are still available... cost maybe $5... and never use it for
>> oil... just this]  fill it with brake fluid.. attach a properly sized
>> length
>> of fuel hose to the squirt tube and the other end to the brake bleed
>> nipple.
>> I like to use a generous length here so I can work outside the wheel
>> instead
>> of under the car...
>>
>> 6. Lay the cover loosely over the Master Cylinder.. [CAUTION.. if you do
>> not
>> do this you will have brake fluid where you do not want it,, plus a mess
>> to
>> clean up]
>>
>> 7. Start pumping brake fluid backwards from the nipple... to the master
>> cylinder... start at the longest line run first... WATCH FOR FLUID AT THE
>> MASTER CYLINDER... it will come nicely.. DO NOT fill the master from only
>> one nipple....
>>
>> 8. Go to the next longest line.. pump brake fluid same way... increase
>> fluid
>> amount in Master cylinder... go to next longest.. etc etc...
>>
>> 9. Of course, close each nipple when you are done pumping at that station.
>> Top off the Master Cylinder to required level...
>>
>> 10. Brakes are now bled... all air has been pushed from lowest point to
>> highest point.. a direction of travel that follows laws of nature and
>> physics..
>>
>> Total cost for tools... something less than $15. System how has clean
>> fluid
>> from top to bottom... SHMBO has not been disturbed or irritated with "pump
>> it more" commands. [you know how well that is received... in summer heat
>> or
>> winter cold right?]
>>
>> CAUTION:.. DO NOT let the pump can run out of fluid. Check the Master
>> Cylinder often, [ie. don't over fill it, easy to do with this system] If
>> that should happen, just suck some out with your hand squeeze bulb into
>> the
>> receiving container.  Check the pump can also. If you pump air instead of
>> fluid because you let the can run empty.. you get to start over....
>> OOOooooppppssss...
>>
>> Works for me... HTH,,,[Hope This Helps,]
>>
>> Grant...
>>
>>
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