Thanks for the insights.  I am very gentle on my commute.  I have a friend who 
uses my car from time to time 
And he doesn't do as well as I do. But for 3 mpgs I'm not making the change.

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On Feb 24, 2012, at 7:50 PM, Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Really? I always thought a W123 300D turbo was more in the 26mpg average 
> range. I've averaged 28mpg with my '78 240D over the last 21,000 miles which 
> is exactly the same as I got with my '83 240D over 80,000 miles. Thats mostly 
> highway miles.
> 
> I was thinking that if Peter was getting 2-3mpg more than I thought normal 
> for a 300D that maybe he could average 30mpg with a 240D.
> 
> I've had both my 240Ds up to 32mpg with very gentle driving but on my normal 
> commute I just can't be bothered.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 16:54:48 -0600
> From: Fmiser <fmi...@gmail.com>
> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Portland, OR CL: nice 300CD
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> 
>> Peter Hertzing wrote:
> 
>> Okay... So as long as we are musing miscellaneously, Fuel
>> Mileage.  I have a 1983 300D - This thing is nice good shape
>> bought it right, and a friend really would like to buy it from
>> me.  I bought it to teach myself about the Mercedes diesel,
>> and that has been a success.  As I see fuel prices rise, I am
>> thinking of selling it to him and buying a 240D.  What can I
>> expect for fuel mileage for a 240D of the same time.  I know
>> it will be super slow - but it would probably do well on my
>> commute.
>> 
>> My commute is 45 miles each way - rolling country hills with
>> only 2 complete stops.  I drive about 60 MPH.  In my 300D i
>> tend to get right at about 28 or 29 MPG.  I'm not worried
>> about fun, just economy.  I have a Miata to deliver some fun
>> during the spring and fall when the weatherr is perfect.
>> 
>> So - share your thoughts.  The other thing that appeals to me
>> is the manual climate control in the 240.
> 
> A W123 240 will probably not do any better.  Because the
> turbocharger increases engine efficiency,  reducing the number
> of cylinders and loosing the turbo will probably cancel out.  In
> my experience, a turbo 300 in good condition can get _better_
> fuel mileage than a normally-aspirated 240 - especially above 50
> to 55 MPH  (80-90 km/h).
> 
> But I'm with you on the manual heater controls!
> 
> --   Philip
> 
> 
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