When you rent a movie there is NO allowance for copying it. The one backup copy is for things you actually own. You don't own a movie you've rented, the same is true if you borrow it from your buddy. If you wanted to watch it later you'd need to either rent it again or buy it. Once you've bought it you'd be allowed one copy for a backup. -Curt Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 09:54:32 -0500 From: andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another video, this time with pontoon and /8 aka To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
I rented a movie DVD and wanted to transfer it to videotape for later veiwing but couldn't because DVDs are now copy protected. So much for "fair use" - they didn't even give me a chance to be honest or fair! --------------------------------- Yahoo! Personals Let fate take it's course directly to your email. See who's waiting for you Yahoo! Personals From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Dec 06 16:30:21 2005 Received: from web32813.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.43]) by server5.arterytc5.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ejfht-0006Bw-8O for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 06 Dec 2005 16:30:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 3105 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Dec 2005 16:30:16 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=GIfylOriytFsC8yk+ybWHxFZ94aHCsylvIt6TszPMAd19+6UkWvl4WfRQLH9l3zy+sB/Y1LN2imVy9XjWnJ0Hhd5U+6vOe9rNhK3Va0www68feyDuEnaf52tSdt1C1gRtzWqfB1f/LR0fmcvk4g6XDcFhFzrgIqiu2lkW32fd+U= ; Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from [198.51.119.130] by web32813.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 06 Dec 2005 08:30:16 PST Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 08:30:16 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another video, this time with pontoon and /8 aka X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: Mercedes mailing list <mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net> List-Unsubscribe: <http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 16:30:22 -0000 Not true at all, many Linux distros have a DVD player app built right in. Also not true for .mp3 files. I believe you mean the MPAA, the RIAA is the music industry. Frankly while I'm not in love with the MPAA in any sense what Andrew had described is illegal for a reason. Its sensible that you shouldn't be allowed to copy a rented movie, if you could easily do that why would you ever buy one? The same is doubly true of rented computer (and especially Playstation) games. DVD producers are in business to make money, they don't put out disks just because they love doing it. When companies cease to make money they cease to be companies then then no new DVDs get produced. So some level of protection makes sense. -Curt Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 09:08:49 -0700 From: Lee Einer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another video, this time with pontoon and /8 aka To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed On Linux, I believe it is verboten to even have the software to play the DVDs, as DeCSS descrambles the encryption code. Ridiculous, as I should have a right to view DVDs I own on a PC or laptop which I own. The RIAA and their thugs are so nazi-like about this, and the US courts so whipped, that one group even got sued for printing the DeCSS source code on tee shirts. Lee --------------------------------- Yahoo! Personals Let fate take it's course directly to your email. See who's waiting for you Yahoo! Personals From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Dec 06 16:30:51 2005 Received: from mx14.marshallnet.com ([207.206.203.14] helo=MAIL.spam-virus-intercept.com) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EjfiN-0006Do-7c for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 06 Dec 2005 16:30:51 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.100] (12-216-23-233.client.mchsi.com [12.216.23.233]) by MAIL.spam-virus-intercept.com (Vircom SMTPRS 4.3.440.0) with ESMTP id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Tue, 6 Dec 2005 10:30:47 -0600 X-Modus-BlackList: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]@pop3.dwx.com Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 10:32:38 -0600 To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: Dan Weeks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] '82 300SD STABILIZER FIXED!! X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: Mercedes mailing list <mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net> List-Unsubscribe: <http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 16:30:51 -0000 >>If so, then it's not a _hard_ fix - if you can find a good used one. >> >>It took me about 2.5 hours to pull the "good" one out of a parts car, >>and about 5-6 hours to do the full swap (old out, new in) > >A 126? On a 107 the bar is up front, but on 126 it sure looks like >the engine has to come out. Maybe it doesn't, but I bet everything >else under the hood does. > >-- Jim The engine stays in, but everything else comes out. Everything. Book says it's a 12 hour job, but my highly regarded and very expensive eurocar indy warned me that on a 23 year old car, it would probably take about 20 hours, due to aging/deteriorated fasteners and components. He wouldn't even do it, as he said it would end up costing more than the car was worth to do correctly, and even then could cause other problems by disturbing lots of things that in their old age would prefer not to be messed with. That's why I was so glad to find a minimally invasive, simple, and relatively inexpensive fix. If it ever fails me, I'll let y'all know. But if and when it ever does, I'll bet I'll have long since gotten my $466 worth out of it. -- Dan Weeks 82 VW Westfalia 1.6 TD conversion 186k 82 Mercedes 300SD, 275k