The Garrett and KKK turbochargers are interchangeable and both were used.
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > Does anyone know what turbo is on an 87 SDL? Garret or KKK? > > It looks like some things are accessible from above, and some from below. > What is the best method for getting the turbo out? > > > > > > I think I am on to something. With the crossover off, the insides are > abnormally clean. Like a complete M1 wash. No gunk, no black, except > where oil has pooled a little. > > Started up the engine. when I revved up the engine enough so that the > turbo started, and held it there, there was oil climbing up the throat of > the turbo and running counterclockwise to the high side of the throat. if > I ran the RPM up to 3k or so, then the air blew away the oil. > > It is not enough to get a bath. I am suspecting that what I am seeing is > enough to wash the crossover/intake clean, smoke, especially on startup, > and washdown the port side of the engine through the crossover pipe not > being sealed well. > > My guess is that any visible oil is too much oil. Is this correct? > > The turbo seal failures I have heard of have been catastrophic. This is > not. But I suppose it could go catastrophic at any time. > > Any body got a cheap source for a turbo cartridge? Les Blumner had a > source that was something like $80. I have seen $250. > > > > > > > Got the SDL jacked up today to look for leaks. Compressor side of Turbo > is all wet with oil. It is NOT washed clean from the oil. The drain pipe > is not oily. the top mount of the drain pipe is wet, and it looks like > from above. The bottom mount is also wet, but no signs of a major leak. > the vacuum pod that controls the wastegate is coated with dirt and oil, > but nothing fresh. I could not find the pressure line that feeds the > turbo. Where do you see it? > > Left side of engine is wet and oily all over. I knew the shutoff oring on > the IP is bad, had ordered replacements from Q last week. no signs of oil > leaking out from the head to block seam. No oil leaks apparent from IP to > block. That oring was new last summer. Even the shutoff on top of the IP > is wet with oil. Oil all over the IP, the fuel heater, left motor mount, > the head, and the side of the block. Left side of the oil pan is washed > clean from oil. Bottom of oil pan is coated and dripping oil. > > When I looked where the car has been parked, the oil is pretty much > centered under the car. Like dripping off the oil pan. Front seal shows > no sign of excessive leakage. > > What is up with this? how does oil get all over the side of the engine > with no sign of valve cover leaking? > > here is my new theory: if the turbo is leaking AND the crossover pipe to > intake manifold is leaking out the bottom, then an oil spray could be blown > all over the engine when the turbo is spooled up. That could account for > the head being wet with oil on the left side, but the valve cover does not > leak. Would account for smokin and leaking. It would also account for oil > all over the compressor side of the turbo: Oil in the crossover and the > feed pipe drains down and pools in the compressor, with seepage out the air > intake hose fitting to the turbo. > > > I am off to remove the crossover and start it up and see if an oil shower > results. > > Subject is 87 SDL OM603. > > I had the 126 CD on this computer before the HD died. It is gone now. > Ceerap. I left the cds at home. > > > > > > Could be a bad turbo, which will cause all the problems other than the >> oil drip (unless the drain tube is bad too). I've had this happen in my >> old Volvo -- an amazing amount of coked oil in the exhaust. Leaking turbo >> seals can put quite a bit of oil into the intake -- I'm thinking mine is >> shot due to excess oil consumption and lousy performance at light throttle, >> same as the Volvo when the turbo quit on it. >> >> One thing to check for -- does it clank too? If so, bent #1 rod because >> you didn't replace the head gasket before #1 cylinder filled up with oil on >> an intake stroke from a failed head gasket there. >> >> Peter >> >> >> On Mar 4, 2012, at 2:02 PM, dave walton wrote: >> >> I'll second that. Leak is probably in the front of the engine. Oil is >>> being blown back to where it collects and drips. I've found UV dye and >>> a UV LED flashlight to help in finding the source. >>> >>> I've only had one leaking turbo. It was leaking into the intake. If >>> you remove the crossover tube and stand in the right place on the >>> drivers side while you rev the engine, you will get a nice oil bath >>> :-) >>> >>> Wash, rinse, and repeat 3 times to get dirty M1 out of your hair. My >>> wife said she could still smell it for a week. >>> >>> -Dave Walton >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <ka...@striplin.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Blown head gasket >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Mar 4, 2012, at 10:49 AM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Daughter reports that the SDL is consuming oil rapidly, and oil is >>>>> dripping on the passenger side near the rear of the engine. The engine is >>>>> also smoking more than normal. >>>>> >>>>> Turbo seals? >>>>> Turbo drain seals? >>>>> >>>>> anything else that could be causing oil drips and oil into the >>>>> cylinders? >>>>> >>>>> Subject is 1987 300SDL >>>>> >>>>> Thanks to all! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ______________________________**_________ >>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>>>> To search list archives >>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/<http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/> >>>>> >>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com<http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com> >>>>> >>>> >>>> ______________________________**_________ >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>>> To search list archives >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/<http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/> >>>> >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com<http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com> >>>> >>> >>> ______________________________**_________ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives >>> http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/<http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/> >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com<http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com> >>> >> >> >> ______________________________**_________ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives >> http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/<http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/> >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com<http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com> >> > > > ______________________________**_________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives > http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/<http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/> > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com<http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com> > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
