yes. 270k miles is on the low side of longevity, but not unheard of. 500k miles is probably the top of longevity. (with possible outliers)

It is unlikely that hot shutoffs killed your turbo.  Some parts just break
and no amount of oil changes or babying could have prevented it.



On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 5:52 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

 I did not pull off the intake yet.  That was on my list for the morning.
  Along with wrapping the joint at the crossover/intake manifold with a
 white rag and after a highway drive, checking to see if oil is leaking out
 there.

 After 300k to 400k, the shaft on my old SDL had imperceptible side play,
 but did have noticeable end play.  It and the engine were fine.

 I have run M1, but I doubt any PO did.

 I asked Daughter about hot shutoffs, and I am not sure if she has been
 guilty of that.



  All diesel engines have some blowby -- easy enough to check on a 603,
 just pull the hard plastic hose out of the intake boot in front of the
 turbo.

 I believe mine is bad, due to the amount of oil consumption (too high for
 the front seal leak to account for) and blue smoke on startup (new head
 about 60,000 miles ago, although quality of that job is unknown).

 To check, take the intake boot off with the engine stopped and rotate the
 turbo by hand.  It must turn very smoothly and have zero axial play.  There
 will be barely detectable side play as it has floating bearings.  It must
 turn very easily, although it will not spin freely without oil pressure,
 and must not bind anywhere in rotation.  Rough, tight, or gritty sensations
 while rotating it indicate wiped bearings.

 Last turbo cartridge I got was $400 for the job, rush basis with
 overnight shipping since I was in a hurry.  Car ran MUCH better (it was my
 old Volvo TD).

 If you have used Mobil 1 for the entire time of operation, the turbo may
 indeed never wear out, but dino oil and interstate rest stops kill them
 fast -- you pull off the highway and shut it off with the turbine red hot,
 and the oil cokes in the bearings.  Not too much later, the bearings have
 been eroded by the carbon buildup, and it starts to run slow and leak oil
 out both ends.

 A big leak out the back will make huge clouds of blue smoke, out the
 front you get excessive oil consumption.

 If you have oil traveling out the crossover while idling, you definitely
 have a leaking seal, and usually that means the bearings are gone.

 Peter

 On Mar 12, 2012, at 5:11 PM, Dieselhead wrote:

  From no responses, I gather nobody else has had a turbo failure.  Is
 that right?

 Is it correct that any oil in the compressor is conclusive evidence of
 seal failure?

 Does anyone have experience with buying a turbo cartridge?


 Does anyone know what turbo is on an 87 SDL?  Garret or KKK?

 It looks like some things are accessible from above, and some from
 below.  What is the best method for getting the turbo out?



 ***********prior post***********

 I think I am on to something.  With the crossover off, the insides are
 abnormally clean.  Like a complete M1 wash.  No gunk, no black, except
 where oil has pooled a little.

 Started up the engine.  when I revved up the engine enough so that the
 turbo started, and held it there, there was oil climbing up the throat of
 the turbo and running counterclockwise to the high side of the throat.  if
 I ran the RPM up to 3k or so, then the air blew away the oil.

 It is not enough to get a bath.  I am suspecting that what I am seeing
is enough to wash the crossover/intake clean, smoke, especially on startup,
 and washdown the port side of the engine through the crossover pipe not
 being sealed well.

 My guess is that any visible oil is too much oil.  Is this correct?
 >>>
 The turbo seal failures I have heard of have been catastrophic.  This is
 not.  But I suppose it could go catastrophic at any time.

 Any body got a cheap source for a turbo cartridge?  Les Blumner had a
 source that was something like $80.  I have seen $250.




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