That wouldn't be a motorcycle - it would be a scooter! Dan
On Sep 5, 2012, at 4:23 PM, WILTON <wilt...@nc.rr.com> wrote: > 'Wouldn't move a motorcycle with over 50cc engine. > > Wilton > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Penoff" <d...@penoff.com> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 4:16 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Digital Pianos > > >> That was the story. Based on the many military neighbors I have and their >> possessions, I sort of questioned it myself. >> >> That being said, I don't recall any of them having pianos, much less a baby >> grand. I could see where there might be limits on what they would move when >> it comes to something like that. >> >> Dan >> >> On Sep 5, 2012, at 4:10 PM, WILTON <wilt...@nc.rr.com> wrote: >> >>> Military evidently changed policy since moving SWMBO's upright from >>> Raleigh, NC, to MI UP in '71, to CA in '75 and to Goldsboro, NC, in '79, >>> then. >>> >>> Wilton >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Penoff" <d...@penoff.com> >>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 3:47 PM >>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Digital Pianos >>> >>> >>>> There are tons of them here, but many of them are spinets and uprights >>>> that have been more or less abandoned from lack of use. >>>> >>>> Lots of nice small (baby) grands. For under $5k you pretty much have your >>>> pick. >>>> >>>> I just looked at a really nice Yamaha grand last week that was a one owner >>>> well maintained piano that probably cost the OP upwards of $15k about 5-6 >>>> years ago. You could get it today for probably $4500 if you had cash in >>>> hand. >>>> >>>> Too bad they were transferred to another post - the military won't ship >>>> pianos.... >>>> >>>> Dan >>>> >>>> On Sep 5, 2012, at 3:38 PM, Randy Bennell <rbenn...@bennell.ca> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I would guess it really depends on where you are too. >>>>> I am in Canada and in Winnipeg. We are used to things costing a fortune >>>>> here. >>>>> Pianos are probably no exception. >>>>> If you are somewhere where there are an abundance of them and some real >>>>> competition then prices are likely better. >>>>> >>>>> Randy >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 05/09/2012 2:16 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: >>>>>> I have immersed myself in the piano technician community over the last >>>>>> few months, and what I have found is rather interesting: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1.) An old piano is just that - old and tired, and they do wear out over >>>>>> time >>>>>> >>>>>> 2.) Any piano that is more that 15-20 years old, even if it has been >>>>>> well maintained, will require a fair amount of work for it to perform >>>>>> properly. >>>>>> >>>>>> 3.) There are a very few brands that are worth rebuilding, and even >>>>>> then the cost to do so is difficult to justify relative to the value >>>>>> of the instrument. >>>>>> >>>>>> 4.) Pianos depreciate like cars - rapidly at first, leveling off after >>>>>> 5-10 years of age. Few, if any, will ever appreciate. >>>>>> >>>>>> 5.) The choice of a piano is purely one of personal preference and >>>>>> taste. What appeals to one may not to another. >>>>>> >>>>>> 6.) Price is a relative thing. There are cheap pianos, then there are >>>>>> expensive "cheap" pianos. >>>>>> >>>>>> 7.) As with buying any used MB, employ a qualified piano tech to >>>>>> perform a PPI before buying a piano. It's money we'll spent. >>>>>> >>>>>> Amazing how many parallels there are relative to our MBs. >>>>>> >>>>>> As for digital keyboards, newer is always better, and yes, like any >>>>>> electronic instrument, they depreciate rapidly as technology advances. >>>>>> >>>>>> Dan >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 5, 2012, at 2:52 PM, Randy Bennell <rbenn...@bennell.ca> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Let me suggest another issue. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am told that good quality accoustic pianos tend to hold their value >>>>>>> very well or maybe even appreciate in value. >>>>>>> Electronic pianos are like computers. Newer better stuff keeps coming >>>>>>> along and the old stuff is junked. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So, if you really want an electronic one, let me suggest that you look >>>>>>> for a used one that is no longer state of the art. >>>>>>> If you want to invest in a good piano then buy a traditional one. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My church (or at least it used to be my church - I am unhappy with the >>>>>>> current clergy and am waiting for them to move on before I go back on a >>>>>>> regular basis ) went through this process a few years back and had >>>>>>> several in to try them out. The music people liked the fancy electronic >>>>>>> one for the capabilities it had but elected to buy a nice ebony grand - >>>>>>> Balwin I believe. It has a built in humidifier. >>>>>>> There is a light that flashes when it needs to be refilled with water. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Randy who is not a piano player but wishes he had some musical talent >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 05/09/2012 1:38 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote: >>>>>>>> We replaced the piano in out church and ended up with a Yamaha >>>>>>>> Clavinova for >>>>>>>> half the price of an acoustic piano. The Clavinova's key action (and >>>>>>>> sound) >>>>>>>> are very like a good acoustic piano IMO. But the thing that really >>>>>>>> sold us >>>>>>>> on the digital piano was maintenance. Our church isn't >>>>>>>> climate-controlled >>>>>>>> most of the time (60-80 degree range) and that was hard on the acoustic >>>>>>>> pianos. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com >>>>>>>> [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] >>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Dan Penoff >>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 03, 2012 5:27 PM >>>>>>>> To: Mercedes List >>>>>>>> Subject: [MBZ] OT - Digital Pianos >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am finally going to check off a bucket list item and start taking >>>>>>>> piano >>>>>>>> lessons, something I have wanted since I was a young boy. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> While I could purchase an acoustic piano at this point, I would rather >>>>>>>> invest in a decent digital piano that has good action first. Once I >>>>>>>> start to >>>>>>>> become proficient and am sure I want to continue on, I'll be better >>>>>>>> suited >>>>>>>> to find a good acoustic piano that I would expect to spend a fair >>>>>>>> amount on >>>>>>>> and keep for some time. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I see a lot of Yamaha DPs on CL in the $300-$700 range, but it's >>>>>>>> almost like >>>>>>>> trying to buy a DVD player - they all do the same thing, but what >>>>>>>> makes one >>>>>>>> better than the others? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I want something that will provide action similar to an acoustic >>>>>>>> piano, and >>>>>>>> 88 keys. As for all the MIDI and synth stuff, I don't care. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Anyone on the list a keyboard player who might want to weigh in on >>>>>>>> this? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dan >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>> >>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________ >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>> >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> _______________________________________ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
