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On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 3:19 PM, Gerry Archer <arche...@embarqmail.com>wrote:

> Georgetown Traditions: What's A Hoya?
> The origins of the word "Hoya" defy simple explanation. Over the years,
> some
> have claimed it is an Indian word, while those of a legal mind thought it
> related to the French word oyez, the traditional opening of judicial
> sessions. Still others held that with Georgetown's location along a river,
> Hoya might be an offshoot of the nautical "ahoy". None of these claims have
> held water, so to speak.
> The official explanation holds that there was a baseball team at Georgetown
> called the "Stonewalls". It is suggested that a student, applying Greek and
> Latin, dubbed the team the hoia saxa-- hoia is the Greek neuter plural for
> "what" or "what a", while saxa is the Latin neuter plural for "rock".
> Substituting a "y" for an "i"; "hoya saxa" literally means "what rocks".
> To this day, however, no one has proven exactly when and under what
> circumstances the yell originated. While there was a Stonewalls team
> between
> 1866 and 1873, an actual reference to the team is pure speculation. Some
> have held that hoia saxa referred not to the team but its surroundings--the
> team's field (the present site of Copley Lawn) was bounded by the College
> Walls along 37th street. One theory holds that words such as saxa (Latin
> for
> "rocks") were scribbled on the walls for years and a similar phrase may
> have
> simply been adopted by fans of the baseball team.
> The Hoya yell gained additional attention in 1920. In that year, a
> fledgling
> student newspaper known as The Hilltopper petitioned Rev. Coleman Nevils,
> S.J., Dean of the College, to change its name to The HOYA, a name said to
> be
> more representative of the University. Nevils, who had championed naming
> the
> Holy Cross student paper "The Hoia" without success in 1916,
> enthusiastically approved the change.
> As the college paper was often cited by sportswriters covering Georgetown
> sports in the 1920's, it took only a few years for a nickname to be born.
> By
> the fall of 1928, a HOYA sportswriter began to refer to the football team
> as
> the "Hoyas" rather than its contemporary nickname of the "Hilltoppers". The
> change was picked up by local writers as basketball season began, and Hoyas
> became the official Georgetown nickname within a few years.
> Among all college programs, only Georgetown University holds this unique
> team nickname to which its students, faculty, alumni, and fans can take
> pride in. But the Hoya yell did find its way into the fight songs of two
> other Jesuit colleges: Holy Cross' "Hoiah, Holy Cross", and Marquette's
> "Ring Out Ahoya". Each appears to have its roots, however distant, in the
> yell begun on a college yard many years ago. In short, "Hoya" may be
> difficult to define, but its tradition endures.
>
> And that's "what" it's all about.
>
>  
> http://www.hoyasaxa.com/**sports/hoia.htm<http://www.hoyasaxa.com/sports/hoia.htm>
>
> Gerry
> ..............................**.......
>
>  'Been wondering that, myself.
>>> Wilton
>>>
>>>  Loren, where *do* you get this "hoya" stuff as a synonym for B.S.?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>> Don't have time for the story where I got the word, but as alex surmises
>> it stands for the S part of BS, but is not gender specific, and applies
>> only to large N.A mammals  Cattle, Bison and horse specifically.
>>
>> It was a story told at scout camp many years ago, and involves the gummit
>> BIA rep
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