Just downloaded sun surveyor lite (free), one of 22 apps -others up to $20, etc. Shows position of sun based on PP (present position). Easy for it to do inverse based on possible position - info since last fix (known position).

Wilton

----- Original Message ----- From: "WILTON" <wilt...@nc.rr.com>
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Well, I MEANT "dead reckoning (DR)." It really comes from "deduction" reckoning and should be "ded" reckoning, but "everybody" calls it "dead," and, of course, it nearly is with all of the equipment these days carrying a "running" fix. ;<)

Wilton

----- Original Message ----- From: "WILTON" <wilt...@nc.rr.com>
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OK, I saw the key two words the second time I read it - "in part." Sun can give you only ONE "line of positions" (LOP) - a huge circle on the earth; ya gotta know about where ya are for this info to be any good, i. e. - dead reckoning (RD), for example - projecting info from last known position to reckon/guess present position. Using old info plus sun LOP, you can reckon/guess a "most probable position" MPP - lot better than nothing and is "neat," anyway - handheld astrotracker. Now, if it could track stars --. ;<)

Wilton

----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Thomas" <richthomas79td...@constructivity.net>
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Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 10:27 AM
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         If it can't pick up a GPS signal, the all-new S-Class can
         actually determine where it is based in part on the sun's
         position in the sky. Now that's a bright idea.

         Learn more in our S-Class app: http://shout.lt/h1hs


--R

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