I believe a recent study showed that the bulk of Medicare expenditures take 
place in the last two years of the patient's life.

Dan

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On Aug 1, 2013, at 12:41 AM, Gary Hurst <jabbahur...@gmail.com> wrote:

> the exploitation of medicare is monumental down here.  anytime an old
> person has a headache or stomach ache, $200k plus is spent on "medical
> care."  many of the elderly enjoy the attention and feel participation is
> worthwhile, but spending 7 figures a year on someone who is not even
> actually in need of medical attention is entirely unsustainable.
> 
> doctors just know they want bigger yachts and the details of "how" don't
> disturb them.  it's a completely broken country.  every system is broken
> and there is no plan to fix anything
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 11:22 PM, Rich Thomas <
> richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:
> 
>> Part of the mentality is that family of cancer patients, especially older
>> ones, want everything possible done to keep granny alive for a few more
>> weeks or months.  They push the docs and they system to do more more more
>> when it really won't help, but the docs have to pretty much go with the
>> desires of the family or there will be hell to pay.  And then there is the
>> part that if medicare or whatever is paying for it, well....
>> 
>> I have made it clear that when it is my time, everyone can take me out in
>> the woods and tie me to a tree and I will be happy.
>> 
>> --R
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 7/31/13 7:57 PM, clay wrote:
>> 
>>> I am of the opinion that the treatment is much worse than allowing the
>>> person to make their peace.  The chemicals and radiation kill the patient
>>> unless it is stage one.  All the treatment seems to do is to keep the
>>> victim on the edge of death while insurance companies payout the mightily
>>> overpriced procedures.  The drugs are pushed as generic treatment, instead
>>> of being used in a targeted fashion for specific cancers.
>>> 
>>> If there were to ever be a cure, that would ruin the cancer economy of
>>> drugs, nurses, treatment centers, and research programs.  Much like the
>>> snit the Kalifornia energy companies are tossing over rooftop PV ruining
>>> their profits because there is not cash flowing in for them.  Or the idiocy
>>> of the Republicans shooting down astroid capture.  Do they not have any
>>> idea the profits big mining will reap when they figure out how to do it?
>>> Kill the golden goose, and there goes your cash for future elections.
>>> Those astroid miners would pay handsomely to get their hands on that stuff.
>>> 
>>> rant over
>>> 
>>> clay
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jul 31, 2013, at 4:18 PM, Mountain Man wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mike wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Many folks
>>>>> may have led a decent life if the tumor had been just left alone rather
>>>>> than being subjected to chemo and radiation.
>>>>> Cancer sucks.  Greedy @#$%&#?@ people that keep people from a potential
>>>>> cure over tax money suck worse.
>>>> My wife's cousin had cancerous leg amputated.  6-months later he was
>>>> dead, as the cancer spread via circulatory system, or somesuch...
>>>> 30-years ago.
>>>> Cure is heinous hope.  Death is the cure, and there is no hope against
>>>> death, well... not unless you want to dialog banned material here at
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>>>> mao
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