When I left the automotive industry in 2005, we were a second tier producer for VW, GM, and Ford.
In a nutshell, VW had a QC manager assigned to our plant. We all knew his name, he walked at free will anywhere in the plant he wished ( maybe personnel was off limits, don't know ), and was present in any meetings that had to do with VW. I knew who the Ford guy was by facial recognition, because he was there about once a quarter. I never saw a GM quality representative in the plant in my employment time. We didn't do any Chrysler business, that was all in another plant. They had fair coverage from customer QC. The obvious point is that GM didn't worry about quality as much as VW. I'm not interested in buying VW anytime in this pass thru, but I will buy Ford if the deal is right. I'm OK with Chrysler, my wife drives one. I will never, under any circumstances, buy another GM vehicle in my lifetime. There are other reasons, but the above facts sealed the deal. I cannot afford a new Mercedes, and I normally buy new. So my next vehicle will be either Toyota or Honda. I still don't believe the USA has it right, and as long as labor unions control the auto industry I don't think it will get any better. Richard ________________________________ From: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com> To: Diesel List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2013 3:40 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won Tut tut sir, American cars (which is a mis-nomer but lets stick with it, I obviously mean the big 3) are of comparable, some would even say higher, quality to the Asian brands right now. In particular Honda and Toyota are in a bit of trouble lately. I wonder if maybe they've gotten bit by the same bug that caught Mercedes 20 years ago? When it comes to rental cars lately I prefer American, specifically Ford if it comes right down to it. -Curt Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 08:45:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Hattaway <rhatta...@rocketmail.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won Message-ID: <1375890327.46902.yahoomail...@web161003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Not just good engineering, Quality Control. This is something American car >makers didn't learn until well into the '90s. >-Curt Just about the time they also decided that they could ship it all to Mexico and China and continue to make 'quality' products. Richard _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com