The Ford 6.0 is an IH engine. It is a good, solid design that Ford screwed up by not listening to IH.
The 6.0 should not have been released in the US market before clean enough fuel was available here. IIRC the original design is German and works just fine with European fuel. Ford was stupid. They introduced that engine in E350 van cab and chassis setups.......ambulances. The 6.0 does not like to sit and idle. It will clog itself up and be a total nightmare. A life saving application MAY not be the best platform to learn that on. Americans still think a diesel should sit and idle, no. They think they can run offroad diesel in a 6.0 with no trouble, wrong. If Ford had listened to IH and not rushed an altered version of a successful engine to market there would not be such trouble. Mike On Aug 8, 2013 12:25 PM, "G Mann" <g2ma...@gmail.com> wrote: > It's my information. based on Ford diesel truck discussion board at the > time, the issue with IH / Ford was actually with EPA. Story I've > repeatedly heard is that Ford was found to have fudged the EPA emission > numbers in order to make the ever tighter EPA restrictions, without > incurring the extreme costs to pay IH to make the engines more "EPA > Compliant".... EPA slapped Ford with HUGE fines and an order that they > could not use the engines without compliance. Ford rushed [really rushed, > way beyond development plans] their own 6.0 diesel engine, with all the EPA > junk jammed on it, but not nicely... That engine almost lost Ford the > diesel truck market. It certainly lost Ford millions in warranty work and > customer goodwill. > > As quickly as possible, Ford has developed a new, better, diesel engine.. > but it will not have the long legs of history the IH 7.3 diesel has with > billions of miles of use and decades of success. I personally own 5, all > have over 200,000 miles, all are healthy and expected to be for many miles > to come. > > The 'new diesels" although EPA compliant, already have developed issues... > time will tell.. with enough customers money... and miles.. just how those > all get sorted. > > Worthy of note. International Harvester continued to use and produce the > 7.3 engine after their major client [Ford] canceled the nearly 20 yr > contract. The engines they use/used were EPA compliant, so... it seems more > like it was an "executive spitting contest" than a hard mechanical issue. > > Bottom line... Ford remains at the top of the heap still in truck sales and > profit, even in these depression era times.. > > Grant... > > On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Randy Bennell <rbenn...@bennell.ca> wrote: > > > On 07/08/2013 6:14 PM, Craig wrote: > > > >> On Wed, 7 Aug 2013 16:12:22 -0500 Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > >> oh? Back to IH again? Or is someone else building v-8s? > >>> > >> Sorry, I cannot answer that question. > >> > >> > >> Craig > >> > >> > >> I think the new diesel engine is Ford designed and produced. > > > > Did they not have some dispute with IH and that resulted in departure > from > > use of the IH engines? > > > > My mechanic son has done a fair amount of work on diesel pickups in the > > last year or two. Ford head gaskets etc. > > GM injectors etc. > > Expensive and difficult to work on. > > Either the Dodge with the Cummins is better or his shop does not attract > > them as I don't think he has done any work on motors in those trucks. > > The last one I recall him commenting on was suspension work. > > > > Randy > > > > > > ______________________________**_________ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/< > http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/> > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com< > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com> > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
