On Aug 27, 2013, at 8:09 PM, "Rick Knoble" <rickkno...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Jon used *ES-12* and *Industrial ES-12*. It is butane/propane mix that Jim 
> Cathey uses.


It appears that they call it r-134a replacement now. Understandable, 
considering r12 hasn't been used in two decades now. It is the same as ES12. 
You can email or call them for details. 

Rick
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