I said....if.....he was using the starter he better have bigger cables than most folks have. Simple facts my friend. The wire in a 4ga. set of cables will not hold up to the current draw from the starter and may burn up when trying to start a Diesel engine without the battery in the vehicle to be started supplying some of the current.
I say that is a fair safety warning, not trying to scare anyone. I have burnt up cheap cables doing just what I warned about. Mike Mike On Sep 4, 2013 12:12 PM, "Richard Hattaway" <rhatta...@rocketmail.com> wrote: > Mike, > > I don't assume someone is stupid. If you re-read your comment, the one I > reacted to, you will find you offer nothing positive, and that the post > itself only inserts a modicum of fear about the test. In essence, you > attack the concept offered by someone as being asinine. > > If you want to offer some constructive suggestions, fine. If you want to > run around screaming the sky is falling, it does no one any good. Plain > and simple. > > Richard > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Michael Canfield <slozuk...@gmail.com> > To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 10:49 AM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D > > > Mr. Hattaway, maybe you should not assume folks are stupid. Been a > mechanic over 25 years. You try starting even a good starting Diesel with > the average set of cables people use these days and a bad battery and you > are going to burn up the cables. They are meant to charge first, then > start. Heavy cables are not cheap and most people do not own a $100 set of > jumper cables capable of starting a Diesel. Yes, charging only isn't a big > deal and completely safe as long as he is careful. Not even really likely > to damage the diodes swapping terminals as long as nothing is crossed. > > Mike > Who is trying to be of help and takes offense to being told he is an idiot, > in so many words. > On Sep 3, 2013 5:04 PM, "Richard Hattaway" <rhatta...@rocketmail.com> > wrote: > > > What kind of claim is this??? > > > > Jumper cables are like welding cable. At least good ones are. The two > > batteries are running 12 volts float. There is little likelihood of > > anything other than minor charging going on between the two batteries, > > since he said he's disconnecting the 'good' vehicles cabling. > > > > This is nothing more than jump starting the car as far as the cables are > > concerned. Nothing is going to burn up here. > > > > In fact, what will probably happen is the alternator will begin charging > > the newly introduced battery since the questionable one was run dry, thus > > has a high resistance cell eliminating the ability for the battery to be > > charged by the alternator. He's looking for 13.7 out of the alternator > > which is correct, and should be achieved if A) the alternator is capable > of > > charging, and B) the battery is able to be charged. > > > > It's a simple test, takes seconds, and is accurate. It can be done in > > business clothes. It eliminates or proves half of the A) and B) above. > > There is no chance of meltdown or fire any more than there is during any > > jump start situation. > > > > Please be accurate and thoughtful with your posts before making some wild > > comment about burning up cables, etc. Someone here might think you know > > what you're talking about. > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Michael Canfield <slozuk...@gmail.com> > > To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 3:48 PM > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D > > > > > > If you are saying you are going to use your jumper cables in between the > > 240 battery and the 300 cables and starter yhen you better have a big set > > of cables. Like welding cable. Otherwise you will burn them up and not > > answer your question. Better to just swap out the batteries and see if > the > > issue follows the battery from the 300. > > > > Mike > > On Sep 3, 2013 2:21 PM, "Gerry Archer" <arche...@embarqmail.com> wrote: > > > > > That's a good idea, Richard. I'll put the 240D and the 300D side by > side > > > and jumper with all the cables off. I know the 240D battery is good. > > > Batteries are both group 49. > > > Thanks, > > > Gerry > > > > > > From: "Richard Hattaway" <rhatta...@rocketmail.com> > > > Like everybody else has said, please change the battery before you go > to > > > all that trouble. You could even just use some jumper cables and clamp > > > another one in parallel to the toasted one to prove your point. Much > > easier > > > than messing with regulators and drill presses (c: > > > > > > Thanks to Rick, Richard, and Loren for your advice; and to Fred for the > > > connector which arrived in good order. Going to wire it up and try it > > > again. If the connector wasn't the problem, will put a good regulator > in > > > and try it. If that doesn't work, will chuck the 3 used alternators in > > the > > > drill press one at a time and try the half dozen regulators (hooked to > > the > > > 12 volt shop battery) until I find a good combination. If "that" > doesn't > > > work, I'll assume that the battery, (which had boiled out most of its > > water > > > in one cell), is at fault and get FLAPS to put in a new battery which > > they > > > agree to do at my option. > > > > > > Gerry....mostly talking to myself > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________**_________ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/< > > http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/> > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com< > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com> > > > > > _______________________________________ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > _______________________________________ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
