On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 6:47 PM, ernest breakfield <
erne...@backyardengineering.org> wrote:

> if the law in "most places" is like what i'm familiar with in California,
> the law doesn't say anything about right or left.
>     what it says here is that you can make a turn on a red light after a
> full and complete stop if you can start from a lane nearest the curb and
> end in the lane nearest the (same) curb.
>

Then maybe you should get out more, Ernie, because the law in your
neighboring state of Oregon allows a left turn on red from a two-way street
across the oncoming lane of traffic into a one-way street, which ipso facto
requires switching near-side curbs.

Alex
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