This is a common problem on many other lists. The most successful solution I've seen is to have only one rule: NO PERSONAL ATTACKS. If a member persists with personal attacks he/she will be suspended for 30 days. In order for the list owner to avoid hostility from the people he bans, the list owner privately selects up to fifteen members as moderators whose only function will be to secretly vote on 30 day suspensions. The votes will be sent to someone on the list whom everyone trusts; usually the list owner ; and the list owner will then take the member off the list if a majority of moderators have agreed. Any time after 30 days the member can rejoin. Members can attack other members position on whatever is being discussed, but not other members personally.

In the 8 years I've been on one list, only two members out of 150 were given 30 day suspensions and both returned as valuable list members. The fact that the rule is there and will be enforced has a very calming effect on members who tend to be too outspoken.

Some hosting services have a way to conduct a survey of X number of moderators so that no moderators votes will be revealed. I don't know if Kalebs has one or not.
Gerry

On 3/22/2014 1:50 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:
Kaleb, it's time to start banning people for this.  This is ridiculous.
  There are a few good people left on this list still, but posts like this
seriously undermine what little community is left.  The future of the list
is at risk... It's already barely technical enough to be even slightly
useful.

How many people have unsubscribe in the last few days?

Jaime


On Friday, March 21, 2014, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

Forgot to mention, I am glad and proud to be one of the few on this list
with the guts to stand up to the condescending "hypocritical crap" that
fats spews.  Good description Hendrik!

Actually, there are a lot more than 4 of us, just that only 4 of us are
not afraid of the schoolyard bully.  A spade is a spade.

I am STILL WAITING for my refund of all the dollars I spent buying parts
from fats, since he claims I never bought any parts from him. It amounts to
several thousand dollars.

He who expects to sell teile should not bite the hand of his (former)
customer.  It tends to drive away current and future customers.

If anyone is in need of parts, I will be glad to point you to vendors who
do not bite the customer.  (no interest, no commissions, etc. just willing
to help people find good sources for good parts.)

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