I agree in regard to the pre-drilled holes.
Another choice might be to through-bolt.
When one is doing it for one's self one can often do much more than a trades person would do. They sort of have to do things quickly to earn a reasonable income without bankrupting the property owner. We as the property owners can usually afford the time to over-do things if we want to. Might not be absolutely necessary, but I do take some pride in doing things in a manner that I deem acceptable even if they do tend to be sometimes like 2 belts and suspenders too.

Randy



On 29/04/2014 12:35 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:
If it's old, dry, or brittle I drill a pilot hole. Nothing worse than running a 
screw down only to hear the wood cracking as you do so. With the quick swap 
drill attachments it's easy and quick to do.

Dan

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On Apr 29, 2014, at 12:50 PM, G Mann <g2ma...@gmail.com> wrote:

The shear load rating for a #8 nail is 300 lbs.  Old dry timbers are very
prone to cracking and spliting. I would not use screws for that reason but
instead, use nails with a good pattern to avoid splitting the grain of the
old stud. Also I would use the best glue and clamps to achieve as perfect
bond as possible.

Just FWIW.


On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Rich Thomas <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:

Funny you mention that.  The builders place I go to for my stuff told me
that the "special" screws were no better than the regular galvanized/coated
deck screws with the new formulation of the treating treatment stuff.  They
don't even carry the "special" screws.  Stainless steel if you must then,
and be prepared to pay big dinero for them.

--R


On 4/29/14 11:52 AM, Randy Bennell wrote:

And then you need to buy the right ones if you are using treated lumber
so that the chemical does not eat the screw.



On 29/04/2014 8:21 AM, Rich Thomas wrote:

Deck screws if you must

--R

On 4/28/14 7:29 PM, Larry Turner wrote:

My apologies -- I meant to say "Dry Wall Screws"  -  Duh..  Sorry

Larry


On 4/28/2014 4:09 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:

What is a dry wall stud?

Are we talking about something different than a basic 2X4?



On 28/04/2014 2:42 PM, Larry Turner wrote:

BTW, don't  make the mistake of using dry wall studs.  You probably
know all of this but they are much too brittle.

Good Luck -

LarryT
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