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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Replacement Engine Compression
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 08:55:10 -0500
Brian wrote:<<for those of us not as mechanically inclined as most of
the
list, it's a
big time matter of trust. For the general population, mechanics, just
like
doctors, plumbers, lawyers, etc. etc. have us just where they want us.
Do-it-yourself-ers are fortunate indeed.>>
Hi Brian,
Hopefully this list will help those non-DIYer's a little - at least
we can
provide some knowledge you wouldn;t be armed with otherwise. I hope
we've
helped you a little in this situation? ;-)
You mentioned doctors - now, maybe the doctors out there will know
how *we*
feel when they start using 10 syllable words, seem to be irritated
when we
ask questions and act like they're in a hurry to get to the next
patient!
;-)
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB)
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Chase" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Replacement Engine Compression
> Tri Star comes recommended by this list. They are recommended by a
> mechanic
> that I was referred to by this list. Well, not actually recommended by
> him,
> but he said it's better that I'm going with them than with some of the
> others around there.
>
> They seem to be a well-known outfit. The thing that's filling me with
> distrust is the sound of the guy I have spoken to - not what I
expected
> from
> a sharp outfit - more like some of the doorknobs I've dealt with
from your
> average run-down junk yard - but on the other hand, I would feel
> suspicious
> of someone that sounded too polished. It didn't help that I got
> conflicting
> information about every time I called. Add to this the generally shady
> nature of the salvage business, and you see why I'm trying to think of
> worst-cases.
>
> Forgive me if I've asked the same question twice - just being
human. It is
> interesting to hear that it's not necessary to have the tranny
attached in
> order to mount and run the starter. However, it's a thin line when one
> starts to tell one's mechanic that they know better than they do (you
> don't
> want to piss off your chef or waiter too much before you get your
meal).
>
> Yeah, Larry, if I was close to your area, I might take you up on
the help.
> In fact, I'm not even close to my car right now (I'm in MN, it's in
AZ) so
> I'm relying on this indy.
>
> I spoke with a different guy at Tri Star on the phone yesterday, and I
> asked
> him some things. He said that their process when they get a car
from an
> auction or elsewhere is to try to start the engine if it has oil,
etc. If
> it
> doesn't start, they don't try again 'til someone puts down money on
it.
> This
> is apparently the case with my engine, as the dude I dealt with
said that
> once I faxed my CC number, he'd have the mechanic pull the engine
out of
> the
> car and it would be compression checked and started up (and
according to
> this second guy, also leak-down checked). If the engine was no
good, I'd
> get
> the next one down the line (which had some 250k miles on it, so the
price
> would be adjusted down) So for one reason or another my engine
wouldn't
> start while still in its car. I've already mentioned how very easy it
> would
> be for them to deliver me the higher mileage engine rather than the
nice,
> fresh one. It would be going against human nature not to do so.
>
> So for those of us not as mechanically inclined as most of the
list, it's
> a
> big time matter of trust. For the general population, mechanics,
just like
> doctors, plumbers, lawyers, etc. etc. have us just where they want us.
> Do-it-yourself-ers are fortunate indeed.
>
> Brian
> 83 240D
>
>>From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Subject: Re: [MBZ] Replacement Engine Compression
>>Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 10:04:19 -0500
>>
>>Hi Brian,
>> This may have been asked already - what is Tri-Star's reputation? Is
>>there anything like the rating on eBay where vendors are rated? I know
>>BBB
>>will record problems - but my experience is their info is not helpful
>>unless
>>the vendor has screwed hundreds or thousands of customers.
>>
>> I remember seeing Tri-Star advertise in The Star and other Mercedes
>>related areas. I can't really remember hearing anything negative about
>>them - but what other people experience won't help you if you end
up with
>>a
>>bad engine.
>>
>> I'm just rambling here - it would sure simplify things if you could
>>make
>>the engine change yourself! Where are you located - I'll help if
you're
>>close to Richmond Va.
>>
>> I'm not fast, but I *am* cheap. ;-) I rebuilt my 240D engine 10
>>years
>>ago (Geez, the time flies) and it's still running strong after 30k
miles.
>>
>>Sincerely,
>>Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB)
>>A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net
>>For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
>>Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
>>http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Brian Chase" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 3:57 AM
>>Subject: [MBZ] Replacement Engine Compression
>>
>>
>> > Now that I have purchased a used engine for the 240D, I'm faced
with
>> > the
>> > question: Do I have the indy test the compression before
throwing it
>> > in?
>> > If
>> > I don't and it's bad, then I'm out a bunch of money to have it
taken
>>back
>> > out and another one put in (I got the promise from the seller,
Tri Star
>>in
>> > Phoenix, that if the compression numbers did not come out good,
they
>>would
>> > take the engine back and provide a replacement). My indy said it's
>> > going
>> > to
>> > cost some $160 to run the compression test - said it'd have to be
>> > hooked
>> > up
>> > to the tranny, etc. Seems unreasonable, but again, it's a gamble
not to
>>do
>> > it.
>> >
>> > Now, I know what youre thinking, and I am too: Tri Star is not
really
>> > going
>> > to accept an engine back simply because I tell them that the
>> > compression
>> > numbers did not come back good. I know the dude was just telling me
>> > whatever
>> > he needed to in order to get me to hand over my credit card no.
>> >
>> > So I guess I just answered my own question. Just have the engine
put in
>> > and
>> > pray for the best.
>> >
>> > The guy told me that each engine they sell is compression tested
and
>> > started
>> > up before shipping. I asked (before I agreed to buy) if he would
send
>> > me
>> > the
>> > compression numbers - he said yes. But he is giving me the
runaround
>>now,
>> > saying he is so busy.
>> >
>> > I know a lister suggested that an easy way to check compression
was to
>>bar
>> > the engine over and see how it acts. Perhaps I'll get my
mechanic to do
>> > this
>> > and not charge me $160.
>> >
>> > All I can say for sure is that this engine (supposedly has only
105k -
>> > their
>> > lowest mileage specimen) had better work or we are out so much
money
>> > and
>> > time and energy on this car, and we'll basically have to give it
up,
>>take
>> > a
>> > huge monetary loss and say bye-bye to Mercedes ownership. Then
how will
>>I
>> > pass the time sitting at the computer?
>> >
>> > Send me your best vibes, listers.
>> >
>> > Brian
>> > 83 240D
>> >
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