this actually hits the nail on the head.  go with the future and not with
the past.  the euros will eventually reject the USA terror machine that
props up the dollar.  first france.  eventually germany.  then what?


On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Andrew Strasfogel <[email protected]>
wrote:

> You should stay ahead of the curve and move to one of those countries.
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 4:12 PM, G Mann <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Ahhhh... grasshopper.. China is the worlds fastest growing economy right
> > now.. it has no child labor laws, it has no EPA, it has no unions, and it
> > executes executive people who don't make quota production. Perfect storm
> ?
> >
> > Beside that, it now has an emerging middle class who buys cars by the
> > millions and it now desperately needs supplies of oil / gas to run them.
> > Sorry... the oil will go to China and be consumed there.. China is now
> > buying Irans oil when all others have embargoed it... Competition at the
> > pump with USA consumers..
> >
> > BRIC was formed to crush the US Dollar as the world reserve currency used
> > in oil purchases [and others]... It is gaining huge traction.  Brazil,
> > Russia, India, China [ BRIC] has now been joined in principle by a number
> > of European Union countries, for example...
> >
> > Time for real leaders to lead America yet?
> >
> > Inquiring minds want to know.. just so I can keep driving my now antique
> > Mercedes diesel...
> >
> > Grant...
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Randy Bennell <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Well, the simple answer is like the rest of industy.
> > > It is likely cheaper and cleaner to buy it from China.
> > > So, they will haul our oily sand to China, refine it into a semblance
> of
> > > fuel and ship it back to us.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 20/06/2014 12:00 PM, G Mann wrote:
> > >
> > >> Sad but if my information is accurate, there have been NO new
> refineries
> > >> approved by the EPA to be built on US soil in past 25 years.  As of, I
> > >> believe, 2 years ago, all the refineries in North Eastern USA were
> > closed
> > >> due to extreme tightening of EPA regulations. Those refineries were
> the
> > >> oldest in USA and the owners wanted to build new ones rather than
> > continue
> > >> to "patch them up" to meet EPA regs, but no no no.. that wouldn't do..
> > >>
> > >> Bottom line.. we are "refinery capacity short" as a nation. The
> > production
> > >> from the Baken fields is increasing with no increase in refinery
> > >> capacity... not a perfect storm yet, you think?
> > >>
> > >> Another pure case of government intervention in capitalism perhaps?
> >  Logic
> > >> by legislation?  Gives one wonder at why congress now has the lowest
> > >> public
> > >> support in history.. doesn't it..
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 8:52 AM, Randy Bennell <[email protected]>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>  I don't know if that is true but maybe close to it.
> > >>> I think that China owns a  "Canadian" company that is involved in the
> > >>> Alberta tar sands already.
> > >>> The current idea seems to be to build a pipeline through BC to a port
> > on
> > >>> the coast that will then permit them to haul the stuff home by ship
> > >>> without
> > >>> going through the US.
> > >>> Won't need the pipeline through the US if that happens soon enough.
> > >>> Meanwhile the railways will haul it through the US and some towns
> there
> > >>> will blow up too but like the one in Quebec, the railway will likely
> > >>> belong
> > >>> to someone in the US so it only seems fair that they blow up a few of
> > >>> their
> > >>> own towns.
> > >>> Of course, if things continue to go bad in Iraq etc, then who knows
> > what
> > >>> will happen next?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On 19/06/2014 5:30 PM, Peter Frederick wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>  All the oil going through the Keystone pipeline is pre-sold by the
> > >>>> Canadian company extracting it to China.  Not a single drop would
> > stays
> > >>>> in
> > >>>> the US, as it is already flowing via a slightly more round-about
> way.
> > >>>>  Nice
> > >>>> of them to dump all the pollution from refining in Texas.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Also blowing up and burning down Canadian towns.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Peter
> > >>>>
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