Scott,

Just as a point of reference, our 4,000 SF house in Indianapolis would have 
cost around $18,000 in 2008 to do a full geothermal system.  With all the 
government spiffs I think our actual out of pocket was estimated at around 
$11,000.

Look closely at both the tax breaks both from Federal and state government. I 
know that in Indiana at the time you got a state property tax exemption as long 
as you lived in the house. Not a big spiff but a nice one.

Our estimated monthly costs were supposed to be around $100 for either cooling 
or heating.  This would have been significantly lower that what we were paying 
using a forced air furnace and 4.5 ton AC unit.

The only reason we didn't do it was due to the wife getting laid off (twice!) 
Too precarious of a financial situation to invest the funds at the time. 
Otherwise we would have been all over it.

I would add that we had a very competent HVAC guy who had done many of these 
systems and even had one in his own house.

Dan

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> On Jan 22, 2015, at 5:32 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Hey Don,  
> 
> Could you tell us more about your geothermal setup?  Is it a closed loop
> system?  How big was the hole(s) (horizontal or vertical tubes)?  How long
> did the install take?  What is your climate?  What longevity do you expect
> from the system?  Would you do it again?  There is a lot of information on
> these systems but most of it comes from suppliers, not users.
> 
> I have air-source heat pumps but supplement on cold nights with a propane
> direct-vent fireplace.  Propane prices just peaked here at $3.70 (so of
> course they came and topped up my 500 gal tank!) but price is significantly
> lower now.  I like the ground-source idea but not sure I'll live here long
> enough for it to pay off.  Thanks.
> 
> Scott
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK
>> Don via Mercedes
>> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 3:34 PM
>> To: Andrew Strasfogel; Mercedes Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Burnin' daylight
>> 
>> That's what we found the first winter here, so we replaced the propane
> heat
>> with a geothermal heat pump, and the propane water heater with an electric
>> one that gets excess heat form the heat pump. Our total energy bill was
> one
>> half of that years bill the next year. Even so, it will take 12-13 years
> to break
>> even with the geothermal installation.
> 
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