Just for the record, I had no intention of paying $4800 for the car, as it's 
not worth it.

I like your approach.  I may do that and see what happens.  If I got it for 
$2500 I would gladly absorb any potential risk at that point....

Thanks!

Dan



> On Apr 4, 2015, at 5:41 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <ka...@striplin.net> wrote:
> 
> Because they have about 1500 or less in it and they put that stupid high 
> price on it in case some idiot actually pays close to that. 4800 out the door 
> is way too high. I would point out it shows $2500 value and tell them you 
> will pay around that. No kidding.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 4, 2015, at 4:30 PM, Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com> wrote:
>> 
>> That would be pretty offensive.  I don't want to abuse them, I just want to 
>> pay a reasonable price for the car.
>> 
>> What's really a hoot is that they have this fancy web site with Kelley BB 
>> and CarFax all linked to everything.  The KBB market price - that's retail, 
>> not private sale - on this car is like $2k.  So I wonder how they get around 
>> asking a much higher ($6k) price for it, when their own pricing services say 
>> it's worth far less.
>> 
>> Kaleb - you work with dealers - how do they rationalize something like this? 
>>  There's nothing special or unique about the car.
>> 
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>>> On Apr 4, 2015, at 5:26 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <ka...@striplin.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> More like $1500
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 4, 2015, at 3:14 PM, Rich Thomas 
>>>> <richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> They probably have $3k in it
>>>> 
>>>> --R
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 4/4/15 3:55 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:
>>>>> Went to look at this car this morning:
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.kbbreport.com/l6pnv?Ref=email
>>>>> 
>>>>> I had made some inquiries about it through an alias account last night, 
>>>>> and thought it had some potential.  The car was pretty decent, in good 
>>>>> general condition, with some gaps in the history but a close inspection 
>>>>> yielded some indications that it had been cared for during that time and 
>>>>> whoever was maintaining it wasn't reporting to CarFax, which is not 
>>>>> unusual.  Paint gauge did not reveal any damage in the rear despite there 
>>>>> being an accident report in the CarFax.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Drove well, only issue I could find was the ortho seats didn't work and a 
>>>>> couple of the closing assist functions weren't working, either. This is 
>>>>> an indication of leaks in the systems as the pumps on these cars are 
>>>>> intelligent in the sense that if a circuit won't hold vacuum or pressure 
>>>>> after a shot time it lock out that circuit, allowing the remaining 
>>>>> circuits to continue operating.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So for grins I offered them $4800 through my alias account last night - 
>>>>> the "out the door" price.  I got a response this morning after I got home 
>>>>> that they would accept my $4800 offer, along with their $799 "doc fee" 
>>>>> and taxes and title.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yeah, right.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I responded that when I said "out the door" I meant everything except tax 
>>>>> and title.  Something tells me they're not going to respond.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The sales guy I worked with this morning was pretty laid back and low 
>>>>> key.  He's retired and is essentially just working to get out of the 
>>>>> house.  He never even tried to close the deal - I told him I had a couple 
>>>>> other cars to look at and I would let him know.  He said the car had been 
>>>>> there for two weeks and they haven't had anyone look at it yet (it's a 
>>>>> Toyota dealership.)  He figures it's going to the auction soon - it's a 
>>>>> trade they took a few weeks ago.  I can't imagine they'll get $4800 at 
>>>>> the auction.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Oy.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dan
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