There is also the lack of common sense or investment made by the scholars in 
gobbling up loans instead of working their way to a degree.  If you are busting 
your hump to cover tuition and expenses, you tend to be a more pragmatic 
consumer.  Dear #1 boy and his parents found that out to the tune of $30k when 
he bombed out of tech U.  Too much fun and games, not enough study, and the 
folks footing the bill.

He took off for the ND oil fields last week in the W140 so he could gather 
enough cash to pay for school his own self.  Two years of screwing around with 
a service job and community college course work, one class at a time was not 
working out and he had not really set his heart to either task.  Now he will be 
really invested in whichever degree he takes up.

SWMBA got her degrees with minimal loans, as we worked our butts off to pay for 
the bulk of law school.  We were able to keep heads above water enough to 
purchase homes and other "lux" items that most of the wet behind the ears 
college bunch no longer can.  Cash for cars, financed the korean car new, and 
#1 home is four year away from paid off.  #2 home has a 15 year to go.


clay 

2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
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On Jul 17, 2015, at 8:13 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

> The problem it seems these days is people seem to think once they have a 
> degree the world should be handed to them. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 17, 2015, at 10:03 AM, G Mann via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> A college degree imparts nothing if the owner of the degree parks his butt
>> on the degree and waits for "magic to come to him" because he has it..
>> 
>> It seems that may be the case with many who hold student loans for their
>> degree in "liberal underwater basket weaving", or "social victimology"
>> [snark full on].
>> 
>> Life is hard, life is harder if you don't get off your butt and apply what
>> talents you have, to use what tools you have.
>> 
>> A degree with no work ethic and no will to win is worth only the paper it
>> is written on.... barely.
>> 
>> On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 7:53 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> College seems like a big racket these days to me. I know lots of folks
>>> paying off student loans all their life that don't really make that much
>>> money.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 17, 2015, at 9:04 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Depends on the education.
>>>> On average a degree in anything is a big step up, a degree in something
>>> useful is a huge step up especially if you've worked real hard and gotten
>>> yourself some experience through an internship or summer job.
>>>> -Curt
>>>>    From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>>> Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin <ka...@striplin.net>
>>>> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 9:59 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies
>>>> 
>>>> And what exactly is the value of an education these days?
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 17, 2015, at 8:24 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> That will be the current approach, but I will replace the car. Back in
>>> my day I could drive a beater but I don't want my kids driving them. It's a
>>> matter of personal preference.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The rule here is that as long as you're in school full time the house
>>> provides wheels and covers expenses.  He's a damned good student and a
>>> responsible kid for his age. I consider keeping him in a nice car a perk,
>>> and he knows it and is very, very appreciative. Most of his non-college
>>> buddies drive beaters they are constantly patching together to keep on the
>>> road. I want him to understand the value of an education and the ability to
>>> have and afford nice things as a result. Seeing that contrast on a daily
>>> basis makes a very powerful impression - it has on him, for sure.
>>>>> 
>>>>> As the son of a first generation immigrant, I have worked hard to get
>>> where I am. I want my kids to have nice things and be successful, and if I
>>> can contribute to that while making sure they have a good set of values and
>>> appreciate what it takes to get where we are, I'm happy to do so.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dan
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 17, 2015, at 9:02 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Eh. Just bash it back into approximately the right shape and replace
>>> the light. College kid right? He drives what rolls, if he doesn't like it
>>> he can get a job and buy his own car...
>>>>>> -Curt
>>>>>>   From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>>>>> To: Okie Benz <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>>>>> Cc: Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 5:39 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I looked there as well. They h
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