We BUFF guys also held John Mc in low regard; his treatment of his wife sealed it for me.

Wilton

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Well said, Wilton.

Any and all who went North earned and deserve respect.

I know three John McCain

The ego driven hotdog pilot, who likely benefited  from and used to his
advantage, being the Admirals son. Who I hold in pretty low regard.

The Prisoner of War, who I respect, and thanked for having endured the
endless torture and privation.

The Senator, who for 32 yrs, has spoken much, but done little, who dumped
and divorced the mother of his children, who stood by him all the while he
was POW, and who then married the rich young hottie, and I hold that one in
pretty low regard also.

Trump didn't get where he is by being shy and retiring. He is smart and
ruthless. He also is not intimidated by anyone... So, I don't see an
apology in the future.
McCain and the rest of us are seeing a game change in action. Trump, even
if defeated will have "left his mark" before it's over in how DC elites do
business.

Frankly, it's the kind of "hope and change" much of America had in mind
when the present administration sold the phrase. Should be interesting to
watch them run away from it now.

Question:  If Germany had not made war on the civilized world, would we be
driving Mercedes cars today? Would they have been "discovered" in America?


On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 8:01 AM, WILTON via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:

In a sense, Trump was  right - McCain and others would not have been so
"famous" and considered so "heroic" if they had not been shot down and
captured - selected by Fate to endure the unimaginable. But for the Grace of God there was I. I'm not so sure I could have endured the many years of
captivity and torture that they did, though, and I'm extremely thankful
that I never had to try.  Those of us lucky enough to have NOT been shot
down occasionally discussed the subject, but not one of us was willing to
exchange places with a POW.  I have great respect for every one them and
what they endured.

So, in a literal sense, Trump was right - ya just can't say it like that -
well, Trump, who "dodged" such service completely, can't (shouldn't),
anyway.

Wilton

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>Anyone listen to the 31 broadcasts McCain made while at the Hanoi Hilton?

Over North Vietnam radio?

Anyone know that he had charges against him upon his release? Anyone know
he got a Presidential Pardon?

Yeah.. didn't think so.. Might want to look into just what the guy is
really made of.  Trump isn't that far off the mark, if you look at the
true
facts..

Just saying.. Go digging.

On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

  Or, better said, he handles himself?

 <grin>

  > Dan
 >


Some have said that the rockets going off on the carrier was an attempt
at fragging aimed at little john.  At any rate, he was NOT well liked in
his squadron. Probably not on the float.... Anyone know for sure if the
rocket that brought mclame down was truly a sam? I don't.  I have not
researched it.

I don't think Trump is as historically illiterate as his detractors. I
have not heard the whole 15 minute interview with trump on Sat.  In
context, I doubt it was a slam on all veterans, as we have been told, but
rather a comment just about mclame.

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