On the AMG, I would guess the the RTW cars get springs for the E class. But the question is if you can fool or disable the computer, or will it tell the other computers the car is screwed so it won't run at all or in limp mode only.

On the S, Maybe all of them are on air. Airlift makes good airbags. I am not afraid of airbag suspension. It is all the sensors and computers I don't want to deal with.

4 airbags, some tubing and valves, and a small 12 v air compressor, a pressure gauge, and a couple of switches make a GOOD air suspension system. Most of the pilipino boyz in Honolulu have them.

MB has managed to take a reliable system and turn it into a nightmare, proven by Clay's experience with a stealer, who could not fix it, but COULD screw it up, by adding un-needed computer and sensors to it.

'lectronics is good for cheepchinee throwaway radios. Not so good for complex systems subjected daily to extreme heat, cold, vibration, shocks and other things that electronic gizmos don't stand up to.

Worst case, could steel springs be bodged into place?

On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 10:46 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
[email protected]> wrote:

 So how hard would it be to fix the AMG air bits?  Either some sort of
 stealer bits or bodge up something home brewed?  Is it mechanical or
 electronical or an unholy combo?  Those E55s are hot rods, for a few $100
 to buy one it seems like it would be worth some rat engineering to try to
 get it sorted.

 --R (sent from my miniPad)

 On Feb 17, 2016, at 10:53 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
 [email protected]> wrote:


 The worst cars today:  1.  A pottyak rollerskate of some form.  the front
 of the seat is just a few inches behind the front edge of the door
 opening.  Hard to get into, and extremely difficult to  get out of.  Being
 a ragtop, I could not grab the roof to extract myself.  It basically
 involved rolling overand crawling backwards to get out of the heap.
 2. Some saturn something or other.  Missing, every warning light on, and
 door handles broken.

 On the MB Front:  Got to drive a couple of newer MBs today.  a 2003 S500.
 Rolling on rubber bands, with deflated (airmatic) and missing. It would
 probably have 20 problems on the stealer computer.  Lessee: We used air
 sispension on the old 300SEs, and they got a reputation of being expensive
 to repair.  Many nice 300SEs went to the knacker because the owner thought
 the cost of fixing the air suspension was too much.

 So, Lets put the problem on steroids!  Lets add a while bunch of sensors
 and a computer (all of which break) to this system.  And where the 300SE
 came with block that could be used to keep a car driveable, lets make the
 thing rolloff bait when the airmatic craps out.   On the positive side, the
 other stuff inside the car seemed to work.

 Also drove a 2004 E55 AMG.  No Missing, still rubber band tires, and
 deflated airmatic.

 both cars had trouble getting bids.  The S was in the $2000 range, the AMG
 was around $1500.

 Remember a couple weeks ago there was a S55 AMG with deflated airmatic,
 Clay's stealer who could screw up, but could not fix the airmatic.

 I sure do like my 123s, 124s and 126's!


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