Them are easy. You can make your own with a couple sheets of plywood and black 
plastic tubing...
Google DIY Pool heater.
Actually they make little floaty pillow things that will help heat the pool too.
-Curt

      From: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com>
 To: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com> 
 Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 1:23 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Now PV Re: Italian tune up with a turbo CIUIHBshDy
   
I'd also like to install solar hot water for my income-draining pool... 
On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 1:15 PM, Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Dad installed 100w of solar at camp last summer, he's going to double that in 
the spring, in the summer time it meets our limited needs, in the fall not so 
much. I think we should go directly to 300w but he likes to try to do stuff on 
the cheap...
At our house we really only have one small roof that has good solar exposure, I 
intend to put solar hot water on it but we require a roof and furnace upgrade 
before we get there. With all of those upgrades I expect to cut our oil usage 
by 1/3 at least if not 1/2. Those savings should pay for all of the upgrades in 
5-7 years. From a straight energy standpoint PV is still kinda fishy solar hot 
water makes good sense...
-Curt

      From: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com>
 To: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>; Mercedes Discussion List 
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
 Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 1:01 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Now PV Re: Italian tune up with a turbo CIUIHBshDy
  
Maryland is one of the most solar-friendly states.  Pepco MUST buy every 
kilowatt produced, even if it exceeds personal usage.  They cut the homeowner a 
check after 12 months if that's the  case.  I'm going to go all in.
On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Southern states are generally pretty lame about PV, their politicians are in 
the pocket of the electric companies.
The electric utilities need to fix their rectal/cranial inversions and realize 
they're electron distribution companies not providers anymore. PV prices are 
coming down rapidly and point of use creation makes way more sense than a few 
big plants. We'll still need base load generation for decades but they can't 
drag their heels on solar or they risk going the way of newspapers...
-Curt

      From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
 To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Cc: Rich Thomas <richthomas79td...@constructivity.net>
 Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 12:12 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] Fwd: Now PV Re: Italian tune up with a turbo CIUIHBshDy

banned again...


-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject:     Now PV Re: [MBZ] Italian tune up with a turbo
Date:     Mon, 21 Mar 2016 12:02:04 -0400
From:     Rich Thomas <richthomas79td...@constructivity.net>
To:     mercedes@okiebenz.com



I had thought about it when I was putting the addition on the house but
we live in the woods so insolation is fairly limited through most of the
day.  SC finally passed a law a coupla years ago where residential solar
made sense though the (state-owned) power company puts various fees on
it.  I belong to a rural co-op, not sure what their deal is.

--R

On 3/21/16 11:01 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> Good incentives for wind and solar manufacturers and installers, though.
>
> BTW - anyone install solar PV (photovoltaic) panels on their roof top yet?
> .
>
> On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 9:58 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> Oregon is a beautiful place, but...
>>> It's pretty amazing how folks vote for their own detriment, time, and
>>> time again....
>>>
>> Oregon is a strange place.  A largely rural state, politically it
>> is dominated by the knot of folks in the Portland/Salem corridor,
>> and they're as left-leaning as they come.
>>
>> Watch Portlandia some time.
>>
>> -- Jim
>>
>>
>>
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