First tell him that any car he has to finance is out of his price range.

Then tell him to find a nice Volvo 240.
On Jun 10, 2016 8:07 AM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
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> i noticed that about the pathfinder too.  I am sure that sends a lot of
> them into the ditches.  You don't want twitchy steering driving on ice or
> snow.  I'll take a 110 or 111 for that.  with the right tars, they are rock
> solid.
>
> there are reasons why every time a little snow falls, the ditches are
> filled with "SUV"s and a high number are upside down, on the side or
> completely rolled over.  Operator error for sure, but twitchy steering is
> certainly a contributing factor, along with tars, and design (short
> wheelbase, high center of gravity and twitchy steering)
>
> Rick Knoble via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
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>> I didn't hate it. The Sante Fe had an adjustable
>> lumbar support, which made it WAY more pleasant
>> to drive for 14 hours.
>> Both cars were "twitchy", meaning they have fast steering ratios.
>> The Jeep had superior electronics, streaming bluetooth
>> in that car was very easy and worked exceptionally well.
>> The Hyundai was a little buggy, in that regard.
>>
>> Rick
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>> Joel Cairo via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
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>> Thanks.  He went to the local Carmax and looked at a variety of SUVs.  He
>> rated them all on a list (how organized is that?) and liked the Hunda CRV
>> the best, but also liked the Nissan Pathfinder which is a bit larger and a
>> bit more $$.  I was suggesting the Nissan, just for the larger mass and
>> safety.  I saw a CRV yesterday morning, never paid much attention to them,
>> it was nice but looked small.  He looked at the hundays too, was not
>> totally impressed compared to the others.  I recall renting one some years
>> ago, thought it was OK too.  He also liked some Fords, interesting.
>>
>> I'm going to look at some of them around here, try to find a suthrun car
>> (a lot of them seem to be from NY for some reason, leases or rentals) to
>> avoid the road salt issue.  He will get his financing organized so we can
>> pull the trigger when I find something, he can come here and get it.
>>
>> --R
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>>
>>
>>
>> Rick Knoble via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
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>> Rich inquires:
>>
>> The boy wants a "new" car.  I'm thinking a small-mid-sized SUV A/4WD
>>> given he is in a northern climate and it would be roomier than a little
>>> car.
>>>
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>
>> I recently rented a Jeep Compass, and a Hyundai Santa Fe.
>>
>> The Jeep was uncomfortable on a long trip.
>>
>> The Hyundai was an exceptionally good appliance.
>> Quite comfortable. Great fuel mileage. I would
>> recommend it, if one is looking for a smaller SUV
>> type appliance.
>>
>> Rick
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>> Joel Cairo via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
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>> The boy wants a "new" car.  I'm thinking a small-mid-sized SUV A/4WD
>> given he is in a northern climate and it would be roomier than a little
>> car. He's OK with that.  Looking at Carmax just because I don't want to
>> deal with a stealer or CL.  Could maybe get an extended warranty.  The
>> local/nearby Carmaxes have a bunch of SUVs, the Nissans and hyundais look
>> all to be ex-rentals ("fleet").  Any thoughts on getting an ex-rental with
>> 15-20k-ish miles? 2013-2015 so a year or 3 old with reasonable miles.  He
>> kinda liked a RAV4 but they only had 2WD models, the others I looked at are
>> 4WD.
>>
>> The basic issue is he does not want to deal with a car except to drive
>> it, I'm thinking the asian stuff is fairly reliable, relatively, and the
>> prices are in the $20k-$23k range which is doable.
>>
>> Thoughts?  BTW he has my dad's old 98 Caddy DeVille that is running fine
>> but the electronic instrument cluster has gone mostly inop.  He got another
>> one off ebay which works but it has to be flashed to match the car's
>> computer or something, and that costs like $800-$900 by the time it is
>> pulled, flashed, organized somehow, then reinstalled.  He can't get it
>> inspected in nannyland without doing that, I can't see putting that kind of
>> $$ into an 18yo car, I could probably sell it here and get something for it
>> or give it to the girl again.
>>
>>
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