When I first got Wulf I was paranoid about clouding, jelling, blah blah blah. Central issue is that I baby "Wulf" to death. The 300TD - half the time I plug it in, half the time I don't - no fuel anti-gel, etc and on the coldest days this winter it would always start on the first crank for me...and that's 6 cylinders with a GP relay designed for 4. So I see what ya mean. Missouri is NOT North Dakota anyway. Chris
John Berryman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mar 10, 2006, at 11:47 AM, Richard Barnaby wrote: > Even if you COULD "get by" without it, > Why not have the oil more warm and available. > Seems to me, cheap insurance on the engine life. > I do it for science. It is good to know how to get the car started in the event of power failures ( which usually occur in Winter around here) and how low you can go. I live where you live except they call it New York over here. I also run synthetic oil so my oil is always ready to be pumped. My 190D Euro has no block heater, it used to live in Florida. All of our other MB diesels have block heaters. I will be installing one as well as flushing the cooling system and refilling with G-05, when I get around to it. I mostly tell my cold start stories so some of the other folks on the list can feel more secure about their cars starting when it gets cold. It seems to me that many who live in much warmer climes than you and I have the greatest paranoia when it comes to cold starts. I hope to ease their minds and reduce the stress that they endure as a result. Johnny B. 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From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Mar 10 19:33:50 2006 Received: from nproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.182.192]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FHnMt-0001Mb-TN for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 19:33:49 +0000 Received: by nproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id c29so606342nfb for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 11:32:47 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=qUd8sAxNqB7UkZD09LlytDrsGXsRyGkRCcQdEhaQBZvsjLP9BHzcwi2gq7CmkZLcgtPPzLKGiT0kjr/71ON1MYVw8ButVtQQFJVSLYq/hdo7L6PZV08P9p+T/dsVQoTBd2xl3LU3b8dQsbxiuday76WDzd1d1M7w1ZowPIuHVu0= Received: by 10.49.27.13 with SMTP id e13mr1557573nfj; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 11:32:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.34.7 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Mar 2006 11:32:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 13:32:47 -0600 From: "Zoltan Finks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Block Heater Yes or no X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net> List-Unsubscribe: <http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 19:33:50 -0000 Interesting. So it will start after sitting (w/o blk. heater) for I assume some 9 hrs. or so. And that is after a long trip in the morning. I imagine it barely starts in this scenario if temps are particularly cold? Brian 83 240D On 3/10/06, Richard Barnaby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Been following the Block Heater yes or no controversy. > My .02 > First my credentials 300SD 1979 driving daily between > Montpelier VT and Montreal in up to (down to -30) > Ungaraged car. I used a block heater. > In most cases without it, won't start after overnight > But will start leaving at work w/o plug in. BUT > If plug available will use it. > Rationale: Even if you COULD "get by" without it, > Why not have the oil more warm and available. > Seems to me, cheap insurance on the engine life. > > Cold Weather true story. > Once at Montreal Airport Hilton, the temp was about -40 which is the temp > at > which Celsius and Farenheit scales are the same, which is also common > knowledge to anyone living in this region. It was really cold, and windy > too. I was waiting along with others in the lobby for some reason, and > various people would enter and a gust of frigid air would immediately > negate > any effect the hotel's heating system had built up since the last entry. > The desk clerk was a bit of a clown. The temperature was a matter of > public > knowledge that night. When one new patron entered, and exclaimed "Man > it's > COLD out there". The clerk, innocently said, "How cold?". The person > entering said "Forty Below". The clerk, again innocently, "Is that > Celsius > or Farenheit", baiting him for the expected reply, "It's the SAME". But > this patron obviously didn't know that, and instead exclaims, "Who > Cares?", > which if you think about it, is a much better reply. > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.2.1/278 - Release Date: 3/9/2006 > > > > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.striplin.net > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > > >
