Mahindra tractors are expensive. I was surprised, I could get an equivalent JD 
for the same money or Kubota for slightly less, Kioti like Scott's were 
considerably less with MF and Ford somewhere between Kioti and Kubota.If I were 
going to buy a very small tractor, the size above garden tractor but below real 
farm tractor, that 22-30hp class I'd probably go with the Ford. For us its 
mostly the dealership which is local and has been in business for 60+ years, 
the current generation being my age. I was also impressed with the castings for 
the 3pt hitch which on the MF are stampings instead.

-Curt
 

    On Thursday, February 22, 2018, 10:12:17 PM EST, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:  
 
 In Japan, that is a BIG tractor.  Here, it is a tiny tractor.  Yanmar 
and satoh (and kubota) are pretty well made.  Unfortunately, the kubota 
is 95% 'merkinized, with lotsa advertising and marketing overhead. (and 
prices reflecting that)  Yanmars are now almost all painted green, also 
with big advertising and marketing overhead.  Satoh seems to have 
disappeared.  I's love to have a real little Japanese tractor, with the 
plates still in Japanese, not one made for the "merkun market with 3 
point hitch to use as a garden tractor (not a lawnmower)

Some of the IH and MF diesel garden tractors from the 70s are great 
little japanese tractors, but a lot of them don't have 3 pt hitch or 
PTO.  Once in a while I see a little kubota garden tractor for sale, 
but most of the sellers want silly money.  Most of the used "garden 
tractors" for sale now, are not;  They are just glorified lawnmowers.  
If you really want a lawnmower, the zero turns are best, or the really 
old one like Curt has is good.

A little 10-15 hp japanese 2 cyl diesel garden tractor with a tiller, 
disk, harrow and planter makes gardening for a family easy.  The 3 pt 
bushhog is  a good thing too, especially if you don't have a 40 to 125 
HP tractor to do that stuff.

If I were looking for something more recent, I'd look at Mahindra.  
Mahindra is the former International Harvester India.  Their 15-40 hp 
tractors have much in common with the old IH A, B, C, H and M tractors, 
with quite a few parts still interchangeable.

I ran a 45 HP kubota pulling a PTO air sprayer for a day.  The fan alone 
takes 45 HP at the PTO,  so the poor thing was overworked.  I ran the 
engine full bore all the time and drove it with the hydrostatic trans 
lever and the  brakes and steering wheel.  For being so underpowered (30 
GPM pump takes another 10-15 HP, plus a couple HP to move all the weight 
over the ground) I was impressed with how well it did.  On a downhill 
run I could get full RPM on everything, on the level it was maybe 90-95% 
rpm, and doing uphill, because it was a Diesel, it was maybe 80% rpm.  '

Most of the time we ran that sprayer with a 1530 JD that was also 
underpowered (45 HP) but most of the time we could keep the fan speed at 
100% with the JD.  I pulled the same sprayer with a MF 275 one year (75 
HP and it was great, except for going downhill was scary.  It had the 
equivalent of a TA, so the tractor would run away going downhill, unless 
you could hold it back with the brakes.  (No engine braking)  Most of 
the time I kept under a half tank for the hilly part, and if you 
remember to do it before starting downhill, there was a lever to lock 
the TA, so you would have engine braking.    One time the ground was 
really wet and I remembered to lock up the TA.  I started down the hill, 
and the engine was braking.  Then the RR tire started spinning in 
reverse due to the open differential as we peeled off the sod and slid 
downhill.  I was really busy trying to make sure the thing did not 
jackknife and roll the tractor.  To keep it from jackknifing and 
rolling, I finally quit trying to hold it back, pushed the clutch and 
let the whole thing run away to the bottom of the hill, where I was able 
to get control again.  That was a scarier ride than when I rolled a 
tractor.

The next year I pulled the same sprayer with the yanmar (JD 5500) (80 
HP, with MFD).  It was a much lighter tractor with much smaller tires, 
and in place of being 7 ft wide, it was barely over 4' at 50" wide.  I 
was amazed at how it pulled the sprayer uphill and down in conditions so 
squishy that the tires pushed the sod down 4", but never broke the sod 
like the MF did.  It was a wonderful tractor.  It took half the fuel of 
either the MF or the JD 1530.  With $5.50/gal fuel, I really appreciated 
that fuel economy.  The MFD was  a pain at row ends, because it would 
not turn tight enough to turn into the next row, so I had to turn 
partway, then back up and go at the turn again to get into the next 
row.  That wasted a lot of time, but all in all the benefits outweighed 
the pain of not being able to turn tight enough.  In some blocks, I 
could develop a pattern of skip a row or 2, then pick up the skipped 
rows by skipping 3 or 2 at the other end.
> Peter Frederick via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> February 22, 2018 at 8:17 PM
> I think a lot of Japanese farms use those little tractors, so they are 
> like the old John Deeres -- tough as all getout and reliable as rain.
>
> If I were rich.....

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