So what would it take to convince you that burning fossil fuels isn't
warming the planet?

On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 4:14 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:

> Respectfully, I do not agree.
> 1. Snopes.com has a protracted history of comparing applet to oranges and
> labeling it as "fact". Which they have yet again done in this link. The
> entirety of the rebuttal is focused on CO2 production in a "presumed
> volume" by "a " representative volcano. Further, the entire rebuttal is
> written around only CO2. Again.. apples to oranges called "representative
> fact", when the volume of gasses and emissions from a volcanic eruption.are
> composed from a large volume of multiple gasses and particulates, ALL of
> which have lasting effect of the "ecology".
> 2. The writers zeal to discredit a book lost in the dustbin of library
> science is easily exceeded by his/her need to prove his/her chosen
> dialogue, without proper scientific consideration of any material except
> CO2, which the scientific community at large freely agree is only one of a
> host of "greenhouse gasses" ... ie. Remember Freon? What happened to all
> the Freon which was making a hole in the ozone? How about sulfur dioxide,
> or nitro us oxide? How about the effect of millions of cubic feet of smoke
> and dust on the solar heating of the atmosphere? Just to list a few of the
> materials a proper scientific investigation would look at.
>
> Nice try, no cigar... Have some pepper jelly and a latte`.
>
> On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 12:12 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Sorry - forgot the link.
> >
> > https://www.snopes.com/volcano-carbon-emissions/
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 2:09 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Inconvenient truth, Grant.  That is BS..
> > >
> > > On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 1:40 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Inconvenient truth. There are currently 25 major volcanic eruptions
> > > around
> > > > the "Ring of Fire". Each day, ONE of those volcano produce more
> > emissions
> > > > of "greenhouse" gas than mankind has since the dawn of the "machinery
> > > > age".....
> > > >
> > > > Sorry, mankind, you are just not that important, in the master scheme
> > of
> > > > things global.
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 10:53 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The hypocrisy of the green movement is astronomical though. Al
> Gore's
> > > > > environmental footprint is massive. His platform appears to be YOU
> > need
> > > > to
> > > > > reduce so I can continue to spread the gospel. If we all lived like
> > him
> > > > > this world would be screwed. GW Bush lives a much more modest life
> > > which
> > > > > ironically was one of Gore's problems in 2000...
> > > > >
> > > > > Curt
> > > > >
> > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> > > > >
> > > > >   On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 12:03 PM, Andrew
> > > Strasfogel<astrasfogel@gmail.
> > > > > com> wrote:   Whoa.  If he believes the climate is changing then
> that
> > > is
> > > > > a step forward.  But to turn a blind eye to all the quantitative
> > > analysis
> > > > > that supports a clear link between human-generated greenhouse gas
> > > > emissions
> > > > > and a warming planet isn't really skepticism:  it suggests a
> > > doctrinaire
> > > > > refusal to accept an inconvenient truth.
> > > > >
> > > > > OTOH, if Kurley has taken steps to reduced his personal carbon
> > > footprint
> > > > > then I don't give a F what he believes.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 5:09 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
> > > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > You are labeled a "denier" to associate you with holocaust deniers
> > and
> > > > > thus to label you as a nazi or nazi sympathizer. When this type of
> > > > verbiage
> > > > > is used in lieu of an argument based on facts and logic, you can be
> > > sure
> > > > > that the user doesn't believe that facts and logic will carry their
> > > case.
> > > > >
> > > > > That's what turns a discussion about current events into an
> exercise
> > of
> > > > > (the lowest form of) politics.
> > > > >
> > > > > Greg
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-bounces@ okiebenz.com] On Behalf
> Of
> > > Curt
> > > > > Raymond via Mercedes
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 1:27 PM
> > > > > To: Mercedes Discussion List; Mercedes Discussion List
> > > > > Cc: Curt Raymond
> > > > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] LIST MOM Re: OT a little truth for the albore
> > crowd.
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't deny the climate is changing,I question who/what is causing
> > it.
> > > > > Why is it okay to label me a denier and remove my right to
> > skepticism?
> > > > > Curt
> > > > >
> > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> > > > >
> > > > >   On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 3:24 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes<
> > > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:   Dan, perhaps the climate deniers
> > > could
> > > > > take their show over to banned.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 1:52 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <
> > > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > My apology to anyone I have not yet offended. I assure you is was
> > > > > > oversight on my part.
> > > > > > ;))
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 11:45 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
> <
> > > > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Go trump.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Feb 24, 2018, at 12:22 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > > > > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > All right kids, let’s either stop or reign it in.  Discussing
> > > > > > > > current
> > > > > > > events as we’ve been doing (nicely) is just fine, however, when
> > > > > > > politics enter the fray it’s time to shut it down.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Please play nicely as you had been or put a sock on it.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thank you.
> > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > >
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