So what would it take to convince you that burning fossil fuels isn't warming the planet?
On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 4:14 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Respectfully, I do not agree. > 1. Snopes.com has a protracted history of comparing applet to oranges and > labeling it as "fact". Which they have yet again done in this link. The > entirety of the rebuttal is focused on CO2 production in a "presumed > volume" by "a " representative volcano. Further, the entire rebuttal is > written around only CO2. Again.. apples to oranges called "representative > fact", when the volume of gasses and emissions from a volcanic eruption.are > composed from a large volume of multiple gasses and particulates, ALL of > which have lasting effect of the "ecology". > 2. The writers zeal to discredit a book lost in the dustbin of library > science is easily exceeded by his/her need to prove his/her chosen > dialogue, without proper scientific consideration of any material except > CO2, which the scientific community at large freely agree is only one of a > host of "greenhouse gasses" ... ie. Remember Freon? What happened to all > the Freon which was making a hole in the ozone? How about sulfur dioxide, > or nitro us oxide? How about the effect of millions of cubic feet of smoke > and dust on the solar heating of the atmosphere? Just to list a few of the > materials a proper scientific investigation would look at. > > Nice try, no cigar... Have some pepper jelly and a latte`. > > On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 12:12 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Sorry - forgot the link. > > > > https://www.snopes.com/volcano-carbon-emissions/ > > > > > > On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 2:09 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > Inconvenient truth, Grant. That is BS.. > > > > > > On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 1:40 PM, G Mann via Mercedes < > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Inconvenient truth. There are currently 25 major volcanic eruptions > > > around > > > > the "Ring of Fire". Each day, ONE of those volcano produce more > > emissions > > > > of "greenhouse" gas than mankind has since the dawn of the "machinery > > > > age"..... > > > > > > > > Sorry, mankind, you are just not that important, in the master scheme > > of > > > > things global. > > > > > > > > On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 10:53 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < > > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > The hypocrisy of the green movement is astronomical though. Al > Gore's > > > > > environmental footprint is massive. His platform appears to be YOU > > need > > > > to > > > > > reduce so I can continue to spread the gospel. If we all lived like > > him > > > > > this world would be screwed. GW Bush lives a much more modest life > > > which > > > > > ironically was one of Gore's problems in 2000... > > > > > > > > > > Curt > > > > > > > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 12:03 PM, Andrew > > > Strasfogel<astrasfogel@gmail. > > > > > com> wrote: Whoa. If he believes the climate is changing then > that > > > is > > > > > a step forward. But to turn a blind eye to all the quantitative > > > analysis > > > > > that supports a clear link between human-generated greenhouse gas > > > > emissions > > > > > and a warming planet isn't really skepticism: it suggests a > > > doctrinaire > > > > > refusal to accept an inconvenient truth. > > > > > > > > > > OTOH, if Kurley has taken steps to reduced his personal carbon > > > footprint > > > > > then I don't give a F what he believes. > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 5:09 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes < > > > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > You are labeled a "denier" to associate you with holocaust deniers > > and > > > > > thus to label you as a nazi or nazi sympathizer. When this type of > > > > verbiage > > > > > is used in lieu of an argument based on facts and logic, you can be > > > sure > > > > > that the user doesn't believe that facts and logic will carry their > > > case. > > > > > > > > > > That's what turns a discussion about current events into an > exercise > > of > > > > > (the lowest form of) politics. > > > > > > > > > > Greg > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-bounces@ okiebenz.com] On Behalf > Of > > > Curt > > > > > Raymond via Mercedes > > > > > Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 1:27 PM > > > > > To: Mercedes Discussion List; Mercedes Discussion List > > > > > Cc: Curt Raymond > > > > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] LIST MOM Re: OT a little truth for the albore > > crowd. > > > > > > > > > > I don't deny the climate is changing,I question who/what is causing > > it. > > > > > Why is it okay to label me a denier and remove my right to > > skepticism? > > > > > Curt > > > > > > > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 3:24 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes< > > > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote: Dan, perhaps the climate deniers > > > could > > > > > take their show over to banned. > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 1:52 PM, G Mann via Mercedes < > > > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > My apology to anyone I have not yet offended. I assure you is was > > > > > > oversight on my part. > > > > > > ;)) > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 11:45 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > < > > > > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Go trump. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 24, 2018, at 12:22 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < > > > > > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All right kids, let’s either stop or reign it in. 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