The other night about 11pm I got stopped by a young deputy who seemed bored, 
turned out one side license plate light was out — pretty lame. Anyway I told 
him when walked up I had my CWP and my weapon right here, and my wallet was 
with the weapon. Asked him if he wanted both the license and CWP and the weapon 
and he said no just give me the cards and my registration and insurance cards, 
leave the weapon where it was, which I did.  He was pretty relaxed about it 
all, then gave me some bullsh*t warning about the light. 

--R
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> On Nov 21, 2018, at 6:15 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> You may want to add to your list, USCCA Membership, which gives you
> financial coverage as well as 24/7 365 access to an on call staff totally
> devoted to getting you legal coverage with a list of on call criminal
> defense lawyers who are 2A vetted and are in your local area, to stand as
> your legal counsel and help protect you and yours from loss of freedom and
> treasure stemming from legal charges or potential legal charges.
> 
> After review of all such policies, they are my choice. They also have some
> comprehensive self defense training available, as part of membership. I
> count that as a value. should I need to defend my self or others.
> 
> On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 12:52 PM Larry Turner via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hello -
>>     Sorry that I'm a little late to this thread - I'd like to add along
>> with range time and practice at home in front of a mirror using a
>> holster of various placements - there's lots of good video's on YouTube
>> to help, anyone carrying should consider one of the Insurance policies
>> available.  A couple come to mind: CarryGuard (NRA) and US LawShield
>> (got a brochure at Cabela's) and others.
>> 
>>     If you carry a gun and use it even in a obviously defense manner
>> (and there's always 2 sides to every story), your gun will be taken and
>> you will be arrested, without fail.  Again, YouTube has video's telling
>> what to do if arrested.
>> 
>>     A few things your Carry Insurance will do is, get you bonded out,
>> represent you in a criminal court and possibly civil court. Criminals
>> these days see a paycheck if they get shot and will sue for damages -
>> and the court has issued some strange rulings concerning in these cases.
>> 
>>     Finally (though there's always much more to this kind of thread)
>> please consider joining the NRA.  It was the 1st Civil Rights
>> organization in the US formed in 1877 (IIRC) to protect the rights of
>> freed slaves and US Citizens whose 2nd Amendment rights were often
>> assaulted.   Regardless what you may have heard, the NRA is there to
>> protect the 2nd A. rights of US citizens.
>> 
>>     BTW, these kinds of actions are repeated nearly every day at some
>> place or another - but they are seldom reported for various reasons.
>> 
>> Larry
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 10/06/2018 2:58 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Take away from the incident:
>>> 
>>> 1. Nothing converts a rabid anti gun individual as quickly as actually
>>> needing to defend yourself.and having nothing to defend with.
>>> 2. Train at the range, often... Double tap, on target, count your shots
>>> with each discharge.
>>> 3. Know the law in your jurisdiction before you leave home armed.
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 11:34 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> -->  Hamilton’s co-workers, however, remained frozen, unsure what to do,
>>>> she said.
>>>> 
>>>> No one thought to attempt to engage the attacker in a conversation about
>>>> his oppression or feelings of entitlement to beat TS out of the woman
>>>> based on his white privilege and hegemonic masculinity?  He is likely a
>>>> cis-male misogynist anyway, so it would be expected that he would behave
>>>> this way toward a woman, and the co-workers needed to have a
>>>> conversation about the best way to deal with his implicit
>>>> heteronormativity bias and patriarchal entitlement, ever how oppressed
>>>> he might have been.
>>>> 
>>>> -->  As soon as she fell to the ground, however, her co-workers ran out
>>>> the door and began screaming for help.
>>>> 
>>>> That was helpful, I'm sure they were traumatized by witnessing this
>>>> violence and needed to go to a safe space, and emancipatory space, to
>>>> calm down, and to scream to let out the hurt, and perhaps to find a
>>>> puppy to hug.  I mean, what else could they do?
>>>> 
>>>> -->  As he came closer, the customer pulled out a gun and shot the
>>>> attacker once in the chest, Hansen said.
>>>> 
>>>> I would be interested to know what type of weapon the customer had, what
>>>> caliber, and if for some reason it was not capable of firing 3 shots in
>>>> quick succession.  Maybe it jammed?
>>>> 
>>>> -->  Police believe Overall may have mental health issues, Hansen added.
>>>> 
>>>> That probably took a great deal of investigation.
>>>> 
>>>> --> Hamilton is grateful, however, that she’s alive. And especially
>>>> grateful for the man with a gun who she said is a frequent customer.
>>>> 
>>>> The money quote.  I'm sure Starbucks will fire her now for her belief
>>>> and gratitude.
>>>> 
>>>> So many questions here...
>>>> 
>>>> --FT
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 10/6/18 1:40 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
>>>>> A story with a happy ending, although it might have been better if the
>>>>> attacker was in the locker.   (And it didn't take 16 shots like the
>>>>> popos do)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>>>>>> "The customer [the good guy here] has a concealed carry permit, Hansen
>>>>>> said, and, though he doesn’t know for sure if the customer will face
>>>>>> charges, he believes the shooting can be interpreted as self-defense.
>>>>>> The
>>>>>> customer is being “very cooperative” with police, Hansen added.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In 2013, Starbucks made a request that customers not bring firearms
>> into
>>>>>> its stores or outdoor eating areas, but the company specified that it
>>>>>> was a
>>>>>> request and not an outright ban.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> As for Hamilton [employee that was attacked], she’s just happy
>>>>>> someone was
>>>>>> there.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> “I’m just really grateful to be alive, and I’m thankful for everyone
>> who
>>>>>> was there to help me,” she said.
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>> https://www.ksl.com/article/46400745/starbucks-customer-shoots-man-attacking-clerk-in-millcreek-police-say
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> Max
>>>>>> Charleston SC
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