The rear wheel cylinders were leaking and contaminated the shoes so that is why o replaced all that. I’m going to adjust the shoes either today or tomorrow then see what happens. It’s either that or I somehow still have air on the lines, which I can’t see how. Or air on master cylinder or it’s bad, it if it was bad I would think it would start sinking to the floor.
Sent from my iPhone > On May 24, 2019, at 2:41 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > wrote: > > In the interest of time and effort, try adjusting them, wheels on. If they > don't adjust out enough to lock up the wheel, then it's time to pull the > drums and take them to FLAPS to be measured for ID. Could be why you never > had good brakes to start with, some dip wit did a brake job and took the > drums beyond limit, so even though they "look fresh" they should, since the > shoes weren't rubbing on them, ha. > > That truck should be able to lock up the wheels when you stomp the brake, > so something is not where it should be. > > On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 12:26 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> I will probably pull the wheels back off and adjust the shoes, or I guess >> I could do it with the wheels on. I did not measure the drums, they still >> looked good with very little wear, at least they did not have a ridge at >> the edge. I hate drum brakes. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On May 24, 2019, at 2:19 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> If you want bad brakes, rely on the automatic adjusters. >>> If you want good full pedal, adjust the shoes till they lock up the >> wheel, >>> then back the adjuster off until you just can feel a very light drag. >> First >>> couple of hard stops will "wear in" the shoes and you will turn free with >>> no drag. >>> OR, >>> Find a clear area and back up, hit the brakes while backing up, multiple >>> times ie pump, pump, pump.. pull forward and do it again and again. >>> The only time automatic adjusters engage is when you are backing up, >>> [clever huh?] >>> My personal preference is to manually adjust them so I can actually feel >>> that I have full contact, then back the adj off a touch. >>> >>> You will much improve pedal travel and brake contact. >>> >>> Question: Did you measure the rear drums when you had them off? It's >>> possible they were turned to the limit at last brake job and are now out >> of >>> limit large, so even new shoes won't fill the space? >>> >>> On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 11:53 AM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>>> If the master cylinder has air in it, will bleeding at the wheels remove >>>> that air, or does it need to be bled in a separate procedure? >>>> >>>>> On 5/24/2019 1:21 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: >>>>> Yea I guess I could try that. I had planned on just letting them >>>>> adjust out on their own. >>>>> >>>>>> On 5/24/2019 1:18 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: >>>>>> So have you adjusted out the rear brake drums? If not, that would be >> my >>>>>> next move. >>>>>> ------------- >>>>>> Max >>>>>> Charleston SC >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 2:15 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < >>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Ok, I a bled the crap out of it. I did the bleeder at the abs unit, >>>>>>> then did all the wheels again started and RR, the LR, RF, LF. I ran >>>>>>> about 3qts of fluid thru it. At all wheels I have clean fluid and no >>>>>>> bubbles coming out. Took it out and it still has very little >> braking. >>>>>>> Pedal goes probably 3/4 of the way to the floor till any sort of >>>>>>> braking >>>>>>> action happens. It will stop, but not very fast and would not stop >>>>>>> pulling a trailer. Even if the back brakes were not fully adjusted >> out >>>>>>> yet it would be better than this. When I pump the pedal it does >> return >>>>>>> but its not an instant return as soon as you left off the pedal. >> Also, >>>>>>> when just holding steady pressure at about the half pedal travel or >>>>>>> oven >>>>>>> 3/4 travel pedal does not sink it seems to stay steady. Also, the >> red >>>>>>> brake lite is on that would come on if the parking brake is on, the >>>>>>> manual says this indicates a brake problem. No joke. I really do >> not >>>>>>> see how I could still have air in the lines. Brakes are worse than >>>>>>> they >>>>>>> were before I replaced the rear wheel cylinders but they were never >>>>>>> very >>>>>>> good in the first place. 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