Yeah, I’m sure that solar has come into play as well as wind power in the 
villages. However, the time of the year when they really need the electrons is 
when there’s no sun, too.

As many of them are on or near the banks of major rivers, I can see the hydro 
thing if they can make it work.

I hated going to those places, almost as much as I hated doing work on the 
reservations in the Lower 48. It was really depressing.

-D

 
> On Oct 13, 2019, at 8:07 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Villages run on #2, but are now trying to break away with more of the 
> renewables.  Micro hydro seems the most successful in that way.  For the 
> larger venues, the Nat Gas blasters are spitting out electrons to pair with 
> small hydro along the Railbelt.  Took me a while to figure out wtf that was 
> about.  It is the part of AK that has trains.
> 
> 
> clay monroe
> 
>> I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for what I'm 
>> looking for didn't fall out.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 12, 2019, at 11:24 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> At $0.34/KwH it wouldn’t make a lot of sense to use the grid if you could 
>> avoid it. Unfortunately, most of the electricity in AK is generated with 
>> diesel, making it really, really expensive. Add to that the cost of the 
>> infrastructure and you can see why power is easily 4x what it costs in the 
>> lower 48.
>> 
>> As a former generator guy, I can tell you that someone with my former skill 
>> set could make a very, very good living in AK, and I knew a number of people 
>> who did. Nearly every one of the indigenous people’s villages are powered 
>> with diesel.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 12, 2019, at 2:55 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes 
>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The local installer who was part of the presentation only does on grid 
>>> stuff, so was not all that versed with off grid system.  The main presenter 
>>> was all engineering and knowledge, as well as a user of his own PV system.  
>>> He made note that there is, or upcoming tech to allow you to sever the 
>>> system from the grid with a magical box.  Much like the back up generators 
>>> for commercial/industrial operations (hospitals) but cost is an issue.
>>> 
>>> Net metering was a cost waste, as he is capable of pushing electrons back 
>>> onto the grid when he had fully met his own needs.  The cost to suck down 
>>> an electron runs around $0.34 KwH, and his electrons are put on the grid at 
>>> $0.03.  The big savings seems to be you can harvest your PV power for 
>>> “free” and save the high cost of grid power better in ANC than the paltry 
>>> return from a place like SEA, where power is all of $0.09 KwH
>>> 
>>> 
>>> clay
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 12, 2019, at 4:16 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Most don't understand that the TRUE name of 'net zero' metering is
>>>> just an accurate description of what you get from your expensive solar
>>>> array when the grid is down.  :-)
>>>> 
>>>> What doesn't seem to exist are the electronics to push back to the grid
>>>> only when the grid's on, AND your storage batteries are full, and that will
>>>> run your house from batteries while the grid is down.  You can either go
>>>> full off-grid solar, with batteries, OR on-grid solar, sans batteries; not 
>>>> both.
>>>> 
>>>> -- Jim
>>>> 
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