So which magazine will have the full story and the centerfold spread? I'll let you know next time I get out that way, I would love to see the car.
Max Dillon Charleston SC Thu Oct 31 20:53:07 EDT 2019 Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>: > I just put a rebuilt 500e subframe into the 87 wagon. Everything OE except > the toe links, which are nla. New half shafts from cvj reman are over $400 > plus > shipping. Parts for the links and new control arms are way over 600. New > fasteners, axle nuts, subframe mounts, lower ball joints for the carrier, > plus a $120 tool to press them in and out, a subframe mount tool, and a > diff mount bushing removal set. New socket for axle nuts. New female torx > socket set for the diff flange bolts. New diff mount bolts and lock nuts. > New sportline springs and spring pads are hundreds of dollars. Swaybar > links. The original sls shocks were done - bad ball joints at the bottom > and leaking; they were about 1300 for the parts alone. I had previously put > rebuilt aluminum brembo 500e front and 300mm 600sl rear vented calipers, > rotors, brake lines and r4 pads on, which was must have been $1000 in the > end without labor, including new master cyl, brake fluid, brake bleeder, > dual diaphragm booster, etc. No more than the rebuilt OE stuff, actually, > in terms of price. > I even got OE diff mounts from overseas as they are backordered for the v8 > cars. Rear wheel bearings had already been done thankfully, so I didnt have > to buy that tool or tackle the job, but I would have if they had not been > done. Necessary? For peace of mind, yes. What is that worth? > > OE door seals for the car are over a grand alone. > > Multifunction stalk switch. Ignition tumbler. Over 100 each oe, excluding > labor. > > New headlights (old plastic housing tabs had broken off), magnetti marelli, > euro style, 450. No labor included. > > New dash was $250 and a lot of labor, with all the hvac pods at hundreds of > dollars, new climate control unit, evap, compressor, dryer, hoses. > > Swapped a black leather interior in; 800 for the donor 95 wagon. Imagine > paying that labor in DC or any other major city. > > You can argue that none of it needed to be done, but when the subframe > starts banging on the underside of the car taking off from stoplights, and > the ball joints on the shocks are creaking, it is time. And after pulling > the subframe out, there is no way I am putting it back with any old stuff > on it. I am not driving a car with a cracked dash, creaky suspension or a > subframe that provides automatic 4 wheel steering. The ignition tumbler has > to work well, the brakes have to be brakey, and it should steer like new. > > This doesnt include the 500sl junkyard diff and side bearings and seals, > plus labor. I swapped a wavetrac lsd carrier in, which was over a grand for > the part. I was quoted 2700 for that job alone from Leistung. That's why it > happened on my bench. My old diff was spewing metal fragments into the > fluid and had far too much play. It was also 185mm rather than 210. > > Anyway for the 123 mentioned, the axle shafts, rebuilt steering box, and > nla sls struts weren't mentioned. And the tranny sounded kind of hinky. > > I am at a point where I sort of want things maintained like a certified > aircraft. I am not driving them and waiting for something to fail. If you > want new car type performance, a lot of stuff has to be made new. For the > daily drivers, I pay someone to do it. For the hobby cars I tackle it as > time allows. > > > > On Wed, Oct 30, 2019, 6:21 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > >> Having done the 124 300D rear subframe piecemeal, several times, I have >> to agree with Jaime. I did the rear of the 81 240D all at once. That >> is a FAR superior way to do it. In the end, the last 2 times I did the >> rear of 124s, I did it all at once. I won't do piecemeal anymore, >> unless it is a short term emergency. >> >> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote on 10/30/19 3:13 PM: >> >>> Sure. If I had won the auction I would probably drive it and repair >>> >> issues >> >>> on a piecemeal basis, as symptoms are observed. >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
