Ubiquiti stuff is all motion triggered with alerts that go to your cell phone if desired. The app to review events is very slick and works on a smartphone. It all updates firmware regularly and just gets better and better. I have 6 cameras, all POE. The switch fan is noisy, but it is in its own closet anyway. Notifies my phone if any of the cameras go down for updates or other reasons, and when they come up again. Yada yada. Their latest stuff is 4k. It is definitely more expensive but the user experience is light years ahead of the Revo setup I had at the old house and it seems pretty reliable so far.
On Thu, Dec 26, 2019, 7:52 PM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Also, give serious thought to triggering or motion detection capability of > the cameras and/or NVR/DVR/logging software. Even a few cameras will > capture vast amounts of imagery; too much for humans to look at all of it. > So you need cueing to isolate those few seconds (out of days and weeks of > images) for image analysis. Nearly all cameras have motion detection but > the trick is to minimize false alarms. External triggering, say from an > alarm system or passive IR is a great help providing it records event times. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan > > Penoff via Mercedes > > Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 6:37 AM > > To: Okie Benz <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > Cc: Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com> > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - POE Setups > > > > Thanks, everyone! Lots of information to digest…. > > > > After giving this some thought. it would make just as much sense to go > with > > coax and hardwired cameras as it would with POE cameras, as I’m going to > be > > running cables to each camera anyway. That broadens the options for > sure. I > > don’t care if it’s IP based or coax and an NVR, so I would think going > with an > > integrated camera and NVR solution would probably make more sense and be > > less troublesome since it would be a complete system and not a > collection of > > disparate parts. > > > > More to study… > > > > -D > > > > > > > On Dec 26, 2019, at 12:29 AM, Craig via Mercedes > > <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, 25 Dec 2019 23:27:49 -0500 Scott Ritchey via Mercedes > > > <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > >> IMO, POE is the only way to go. > > > > > > Yes, it is. > > > > > > > > >> You can get cheap serviceable cameras (like Reolink) for less than > > >> $50 but the imagery is much sharper from better cameras, like Dahua > > >> starlight series. Cheaper cameras tend to be blurry for moving > > >> objects (the only ones you actually care about), especially at night > > >> and ID is nearly impossible. Low light cameras (like Dahua > > >> starlights) run at higher shutter speed for less blur. Several other > > >> brands (like Lorex and Amcrest) are stripped-down Dahuas. Hikvision > > >> makes good cameras too. Look for international (not china) version > > >> cameras that will have updatable firmware. The US government has > > >> banned purchase of both of these brands (possible spyware in > > >> firmware) but that shouldn't matter to average users. > > > > > > I would not put Dahua or HiK cameras on the Internet, but have them on > > > their own network. Check for updatable firmware. Some of the stuff > > > sold is not updatable. > > > > > > > > >> If possible get everything in the same brand. > > > > > > I have Q-See (rebadged Dahua) cameras and NVR (network video recorder) > > > which I bought in 2015. > > > > > > > > >> All ONVIF stuff is supposed to be interoperable but that's > > >> theoretical, practically there will be limitations with mixed brands. > > >> Go with "eyeball" style cameras if possible. Bullet cameras are easy > > >> to repoint and they attract spider webs. Some dome cameras then to > > >> fog and craze with time. Cat5 hard wire will always be more reliable > > >> than Wi-Fi and will allow reliable reconfiguration and firmware > > >> update over the LAN. Most of the better cameras support a mini SD > > >> card that can record motion events but you probably want a central > > >> recording capability like a NVR (hopefully same brand as cameras) of > > >> software like Blue Iris (which is great even with different camera > > >> brands). You can use a NAS as a NVR but licenses can be costly and > > >> cameras eat a lot of bandwidth. Eight channel NVRs are reasonable, > > >> especially if you supply the hard drive. The better cameras can be > > >> ordered with different focal lengths so do some analysis to get the > > >> right lens. For a few bucks more you can get a varifocal (zoom) lens > > >> to get a custom field of view. Don't get too hung up on megapixels. > > >> My 2 MP Dahua starlights provide a sharper image than 5 MP Reolinks. > > >> Pro-line cameras (like Dahua IPC-HDW5442TM-AS, maybe $170) have > > >> advanced processing like face capture, person counting, etc. > > > > > > Good information, Scott. > > > > > > Note also you most likely will not be satisfied with just any old hard > > > disk long term -- there is a reason WD has a line of disks > > > specifically for surveillance. > > > > > > > > >> Finally, https://ipcamtalk.com/ is an excellent information source if > > >> you can stand the biases of the list mom (fenderman). Just be aware > > >> that anyone can post so there is no guarantee posted information is > > >> accurate. > > > > > > If you want a professional level site, go to IPVM, https://ipvm.com. > > > If you want an invite, let me know. > > > > > > > > > Craig > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
