I remember reading that as well.

I'm totally spoiled, having eaten pizza in bella Napoli for years and
years.  On the must-do list at every trip to Italy is pizza made in a real
brick oven, the closer to Naples the better.

Once when family was visiting, we all went to a local pizza ristorante to
pick up about five pizzas.  The pizza oven was right up front next to the
cashier, big wood fired brick oven, heated up like a blast furnace.  We had
so much fun just watching the chef build each pizza, put them all into the
oven, and then turn them a time or two and minutes after they went in, they
came back out, perfectly done.  Family from the mid-west was suitably
impressed, probably their favorite event of the day, talked about that
pizza oven experience for a long time afterward.

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Max
Charleston SC


On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 1:26 PM Craig via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:

> I mentioned recently about us talking about pizzas; well today I found
> the original email. It's attached below.
>
>
> Craig
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 01:58:43 -0500
> From: Allan Streib <str...@cs.indiana.edu>
> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] pizza oven talk
>
>
> Conveyor ovens are awful.  They do produce a consistent quality pie
> without the need for any real skill on the part of the operator, which
> is why the chain pizzarias use them.  Unfortunately for the consumer,
> however, the consistent quality they achieve is not excellent or even
> good, but medocre.
>
> In college I worked at a Domino's franchise.  Not world class pizza
> maybe, but at the time really not bad.  Back then they used deck ovens,
> which were later replaced by conveyors.  The pizza took a noticable turn
> for the worse at that point.  Same dough, sauce, cheese and toppings;
> the only difference was the ovens.
>
> The deck ovens could turn out a really nice crust, nicely browned and
> crispy on the surface but moist, airy and flavorful on the inside,
> cheese carmelized on the surface but melted and stringy underneath, the
> tastes of the toppings individually discernable.  The conveyor ovens,
> with the same ingredients going in, turned out a tough cardboard-like
> crust that had no crunch, with the cheese and all the toppings hardened
> into a tasteless, dehydrated layer on the surface.
>
> All the chain pizzarias here, as well as most of the independents, use
> conveyor ovens now.  Some do better than others, but the best pizza we
> have is found at one or two independents that still use deck ovens.
>
> Our deck ovens at Domino's were electric, and ran at about 580 degrees
> F.  A coal-fired brick oven could approach 1,000 degrees.  Intense
> radiant heat is the key to a great pizza.  Baking at these temperatures
> requires experience and attention.  The difference between an underbaked
> and a burnt pizza can literally be a matter of seconds.
>
> Aside from the oven, another critical element of a good pizza crust is
> the flour.  You need to use a high protein flour, which you cannot buy
> at the typical supermarket.  So-called "bread flour" is better than
> all-purpose, but still not ideal.  The best I've tried is "Sir Lancelot"
> high-gluten flour from the King Arthur flour company.  You can order it
> on-line.  With this flour, you really have to work the dough to develop
> the gluten, so it's best to use an electric mixer such as a Kitchen-Aid.
>
> For anyone interested, I can enthusiastically recommend a book on the
> topic, "American Pie: My Search for the Perfect Pizza" by Peter
> Reinhart.  The first half is sort of a diary or narrative of his "hunt",
> starting in Italy then moving to New York and across the USA, sampling
> and comparing locally famous pizzarias.  The second half is a collection
> of recipes and instructions for how to make a decent pizza at home from
> scratch.  The author's love for his subject is obvious throughout.
>
> Allan
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