Depending on how the ceiling light fixtures are wired there may be a hot
lead at one or the other, which is then routed through the wall switch
and back to the fixture.


Allan

Dan Penoff via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> writes:

> I didn’t elaborate on the ceiling fan, but it’s a Hunter that runs off a 
> remote for everything - light and fan, dimmer and speeds. So I just need 
> power to it all the time and nothing else. That’s why I was saying it could 
> easily be on the light circuit as any time the lights are off the fan 
> wouldn’t be in use anyway.
>
> At this point it’s more of a matter to see if I can get to the junction boxes 
> on either the ventilation fan or can lights. If I can get that resolved I can 
> do the remote thing to control the ventilation fan. It’s only a foot or two 
> away in the ceiling so there’s even the chance I could cut the hole for the 
> fan support and get a hand up there to access the junction box. I can do the 
> remote thingy from inside the fan enclosure.
>
> Hmm.
>
> -D
>
>> On Mar 22, 2020, at 3:32 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah that’s probably more what it is. I have these fans that I put in, 
>> they’re switched but a little RF remote works the light and fan operation. I 
>> know there are similar things for lights. So you could leave the power on at 
>> the wall switch then turn the fan or light on with their respective remotes. 
>> 
>> There are those Alexa and google lights too but they need WiFi to make the 
>> lights work. 
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 22, 2020, at 11:55 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  "Remote switch" is really a relay. "Alexa turn on the fan" there are a 
>>> variety out there...
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>>   On Sunday, March 22, 2020, 11:50:07 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:  
>>> 
>>> Example? Not sure what you mean by “remote switches”.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 22, 2020, at 11:47 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Get some remote switches, you can leave the power on constantly but switch 
>>>> the fixture
>>>> 
>>>> --FT
>>>> Sent from iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 22, 2020, at 11:30 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> So here’s the deal:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I want to install a ceiling fan on the ceiling of our master bathroom. 
>>>>> The roof pitch over this part of the house makes it nearly impossible for 
>>>>> me to access the area from above. On opposite sides of the bathroom are 
>>>>> sink/counter areas with can lights in the ceiling. There is also a 
>>>>> ventilation fan in the ceiling as well.
>>>>> 
>>>>> My initial thought was to connect up to one of the can lights (they are 
>>>>> controlled together by the same switch) and just run the ceiling fan off 
>>>>> of their circuit. It’s highly unlikely that the ceiling fan would be 
>>>>> needed if the lights are off. But - since these are can lights the 
>>>>> junction boxes are on the outsides of the fixtures, meaning I can’t get 
>>>>> to the junction boxes from below because the fixtures were installed from 
>>>>> the attic space. At least I believe that to be the case, that I couldn’t 
>>>>> dismantle the fixtures from below and drop them out the opening. I can 
>>>>> probably snake a wire across the ceiling from one of the can lights to 
>>>>> the location where the fan would be installed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The alternative is to utilize the same feed to the ventilation fan, but 
>>>>> that means it would have to be on if the ceiling fan was to operate 
>>>>> unless I rigged some means of turning off the ventilation fan locally, 
>>>>> like with a chain/pull switch or something like that. The proximity to 
>>>>> the ceiling fan would probably make this impossible. Not an ideal 
>>>>> situation.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Worst case scenario would be to run a feeder through the attic space (I 
>>>>> could possibly get a wire from parts of the attic I can access to the 
>>>>> ceiling of the bathroom) all the way back to the distribution panel, but 
>>>>> that’s all the way on the opposite side of the house.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’m looking for ideas here. This is a pretty creative bunch, help me 
>>>>> identify a solution I have’t yet thought of.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> 
>>>>> -D
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