That article sucks, as it its poorly written without a clear reason to exist. What it says, if you read it a couple times and dig through all the extra words, is that wearing a mask when there isn't a pandemic scares people. If you dig around a bit you find "concluded that the surgical mask was noninferior to the N95 mask in terms of influenza transmission rates among health care workers." Which says, straight up, that a mask reduces transmission rates. The O2/CO2 levels debate is just people spewing nonsense due to not wanting to wear a mask, its been dis-proven time and time again. You can find plenty of evidence of people going for a run with a mask on and not having lowered O2 or elevated CO2. To say otherwise ignores a growing mountain of evidence. -Curt
On Tuesday, July 7, 2020, 1:26:59 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Lower o2 levels, higher co2 levels, mask catches all sorts of contamination that you constantly breath in when putting dirty masks back on. Here is an article I found from several years ago. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4868614/ Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 7, 2020, at 12:18 PM, Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I don't understand any possible downside from wearing a mask when venturing > outside and mingling with other people. > >> On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 12:57 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> The first mention of politics on this was just brought up by you. It has >> nothing to do with politics. It has to do with facts and common sense. If >> you want to wear a mask or never leave the house, fine. Otherwise there is >> so much misinformation about wearing masks or not, locking or not has done >> any good. The numbers are not accurate and can’t be trusted. One thing is >> certain the economy has been destroyed. Next week I will be flying again and >> I am not the least bit concerned. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On Jul 7, 2020, at 11:51 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes >> > <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> > >> > We lived in fear of leaving the house here in NJ and look at our numbers >> > and the rest of the New York Cory area... lock down has been very >> > successful. Saying otherwise is ignoring scientifically proven facts for >> > political agenda. If we have a chance of fighting this, we all need to >> > change our behaviors and learn to respect the science behind the >> > recommendations. >> > >> > If you don’t wear a mask, you shouldn’t be out in public around other >> > people, period. And the federal government needs to step up and make this >> > statement. >> > >> > I honestly can’t believe this is even a point to argue and discuss... you >> > guys are very clouded by what you read and hear with strong political >> > bias. Forget all the noise and just get back to the basic fact that this >> > is a respiratory disease people die from. And wearing a mask and avoid >> > others reduces its spread. It’s very simple. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 12:10 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < >> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> We can’t live in fear and afraid to leave the house. What is becoming >> >> apparent is this virus is not nearly as deadly or as big of a deal as they >> >> made it out to be. There are lots more people testing positive because we >> >> are doing a lot more test. The death rate is going down because many >> >> people >> >> have had it and never knew it, and it did not kill them. >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >>> On Jul 7, 2020, at 10:45 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes < >> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> New Zealand, Australia, China (especially China), Italy, Germany, >> >> Greece, Spain all had good luck with initial lockdowns. Big economic hit, >> >> but far less severe than a health system collapse and a real rather than >> >> induced economic downturn. >> >>> >> >>> The problem is that far too many people think getting the case load down >> >> to manageable means they don't need to keep practicing all the things that >> >> got it down in the first place. >> >>> >> >>> I have a couple friends who have made more than one trip to vacation >> >> spots recently, for instance. Plumb nuts, there is absolutely NO reason >> >> to >> >> assume vacation spots are safe, at all, ever, especially when going there >> >> involves consumption of large quantites of alcohol in public. >> >> Unfortunately, for those friends the alcohol part is the main reason for >> >> going..... >> >>> >> >>> The message should be "act like it's 1900 -- no antibiotics, no >> >> treatments, no drugs, no vaccine" -- the way out of this is to treat it >> >> like any disease outbreak prior to the advent of antibiotics in the >> >> 1940's. Quarantines, social distancing, face masks (which worked pretty >> >> well in 1918 too) and stay at home! >> >>> >> >>> We will get there, just gonna take a million extra dead people before >> >> the unwashed masses figure it out. >> >>> _______________________________________ >> >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >>> >> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >>> >> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________ >> >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> >> -- >> > Jaime Kopchinski >> > http://www.jaimekop.com/ >> > _______________________________________ >> > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > >> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > >> >> >> _______________________________________ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com