I wonder if theres a big difference between diesel and gas engines too. The 
ones I've driven were all gasser rentals...
-Curt

    On Saturday, September 19, 2020, 2:36:56 PM EDT, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes 
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:  
 
 There was a HUUUUUUUGE difference in the DSG transmission in the 2014 Beetle 
TDI and the nearly identical new 2015. The 2014 was quite jerky starting out 
like a novice driving a manual, and the 2015 was nearly as smooth as a 
conventional automatic transmission. The shifts were quick and crisp.

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> On Sep 19, 2020, at 10:12 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  I HATE DSG transmissions. I hate how they sound, I hate how they jerk in a 
> parking lot. I hate the feeling during shifts and they're fragile. Nothing to 
> like about those.
> The 6spd manual in my Jetta is a fantastic transmission, it shifts smoothly 
> and its geared nicely to live with. Sure its not a Mercedes but in 2015 you 
> could have my car for around $20,000. Very affordable compared to a Mercedes. 
> Its 80% as good (maybe more, 50mpg remember) for half the money.
> -Curt
> 
>    On Saturday, September 19, 2020, 11:10:10 AM EDT, OK Don via Mercedes 
><mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:  
> 
> Not quite accurate - our Passat TDI was one of the cheating cars and needed
> BlueTec fluid. The only things I didn't like about that car were the
> maintenance costs for the dual clutch tranny, the seats were not as
> comfortable as the W124, and the wind noise was higher than an old W124 at
> 70mph.
> 
>> On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 8:48 AM Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> No, the testing is supposed to be done with exactly the same operational
>> parameters in the computers as real world driving conditions.
>> 
>> The fine is for writing software that figured out when the vehicle was
>> being emission tested and using DIFFERENT operational parameters in order
>> to meet the test.
>> 
>> Of course it didn't when run on the road, it wasn't intended to.
>> 
>> The law is quite specific about this.
>> 
>> VW decided to cheat instead of using BlueTec technology, and got caught..
>> Seems Daimler did something similar, although it doesn't seem to have been
>> so egregious.
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> OK Don
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