2016 allegations focused on Russian hacking of the DNC email accounts, and their propagation, and actions by Comey to highlight alleged irregularities just before the election. I don't recall serious charges of electoral fraud due to voting issues.
On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 9:50 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Pretty much, although the information that Rick just posted about the > county in MI that was audited points out the discrepancies that exist when > there aren’t proper controls in place and the poll workers or elections > officials aren’t properly trained. > > -D > > > On Dec 17, 2020, at 9:07 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > So basically it sounds like the election was not “hacked” last time and > it wasn’t the time either. It is simply the media spun it and hyped it up > as being hacked before, but this time is spinning it that there is no way > it could be hacked. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Dec 17, 2020, at 5:53 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> Working with the SOE (supervisor of elections) here I can calm your > fears. > >> > >> As previously stated, a nation state, most likely the Russians, did > breach several state’s voter registration databases aound the 2016 > election. While problematic for a lot of reasons, doing so had no effect on > the actual voting process. > >> > >> The actual voting systems, which vary from state to state, are always > “air gapped” in the sense that voting machines are never, ever connected to > the Internet or any network of any kind. As described by others, ballots > are typically printed out for each voter as they register or check in at a > polling place, filled out by the voter, then scanned by a completely > stand-alone voting machine. The votes tabulated in that machine are > collected on a memory card or other means of electronic storage that is > encrypted using state of the art encryption protocols. There is a clearly > defined chain of custody involving the handling of the machines, memory > cards, ballots and anything else involved in the process. > >> > >> When auditing the results, paper ballots marked by the voters are > scanned by a machine and tabulated separately to compare with the results > tabulated by the voting machines. > >> > >> It’s a very, very highly controlled process that has changed little > over the years. Most states and municipalities continue to use a paper > ballot of some sort in order to provide a hard copy of the votes - I’m not > aware of anyone who does it 100% electronically, although there may be > somewhere. > >> > >> The stories about massive numbers of votes being added/removed and such > are bogus. The process simply doesn’t have the capacity for such > alterations, and even if someone tried it, the audits done using the > physical paper ballots would quickly reveal any discrepancies. Mistakes do > happen, and they’re typically identified in short order when audits are > performed and corrected on the spot. It’s still a very manual process > everywhere I know of, and that’s one of the reasons why the integrity of > the process has been preserved. > >> > >> -D > >> > >>> On Dec 17, 2020, at 2:09 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> My current NC county as well as my previous FL county used this > system. After marking a paper ballot the voter feeds it into a reader > which indicates that the ballot was accepted (read OK) or rejected (spit > back out). Accepted ballots are held within the machine. This is the best > system I know: simple, cheap, secure and auditable. Anything more complex > facilitates fraud, IMO. > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes, Wednesday, December 16, 2020 > 11:33 PM > >>> > >>> Here in our state you get a paper ballot that you color in the squares > to vote. Then feed it into a machine that scans it and counts it. Even > though a machine counts it, you still have a physical paper that can be > hand counted later. Are other states totally electronic? > >>> > >>> Sent from my iPhone > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
