Power just came back on, for now. Plugged the blower in and she is throwing out a lot of heat. Also the heat pump kicked back on, outside unit and all. It’s now up to 6 outside and those instructions said when it got above 5 the lockout should end so I guess it was just doing what it was supposed to do.
Since I have this fire going I’m probably going to keep feeding it. In fact this pile of wood I have out back is probably about 5 years old. Maybe I should just go ahead and use it all up this year and get fresh wood next year. I don’t want it to completely rot and go to waste. I also have lots from a a huge tree that blew down at the other house I cut up. Just need to split it. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 16, 2021, at 11:44 AM, Curt Raymond <[email protected]> wrote: > > > It takes awhile for the stove and chimney to heat up to the point you really > radiate heat. > The stove we have at camp (An "All Nighter" which is a copy of a Fisher) has > around 100# of firebrick inside. The first hour its lit from cold you're just > heating the stove, after that you start to heat the room. The stove stays hot > for hours after it goes out though. It's annoying when you first get to camp > and the place is freezing cold and the stove isn't helping. We've got a Big > Buddy propane heater on hand just for those sort of times. By the time its > burned through 2x 1# propane cans the stove is starting to radiate heat. > > -Curt > > On Tuesday, February 16, 2021, 12:40:35 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > It’s good and hot now. Fire going good, top of it is hot but unfortunately > without the blower it does not push much heat into the room. It’s now down to > 58 in here by the maybe it’s putting off enough heat to keep it from > dropping faster than without it. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Feb 16, 2021, at 11:02 AM, Curt Raymond <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Every year I go through a period of relearning how to get maximum output > > from the stove. There are a couple rules but its really more an art than a > > science. The quality of the wood makes a big difference as does outside > > temps and, to a lesser degree, even wind speed and direction. > > > > -Curt > > > > On Tuesday, February 16, 2021, 11:54:32 AM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > It’s got an air control on each side, I can’t remember if they are pushed > > in or pulled out to open are flow into it. They were pushed in and it > > seemed like the fire was dying down with the doors closed so I pulled them > > out. As I said it’s been a while since I have used this thing. > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > On Feb 16, 2021, at 10:49 AM, Kaleb Striplin <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Nope it’s all contained in the original brick chimney. I closed the > > > doors on it and will see what happens > > > > > > I really need to look into a generator or some sort. > > > > > > <image0.jpeg> > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > >>> On Feb 16, 2021, at 10:43 AM, Curt Raymond <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>> > > >> > > >> The doors will probably make more heat, you're losing it up the chimney > > >> because its getting too much air. > > >> > > >> I've got a thermometer on the stove pipe and I'm always interested in > > >> the fact that maximum heat is NOT achieved with maximum air. You've got > > >> to run a lot of air to get the fire going and to get the stove/chimney > > >> warm but then you need to restrict air some to get max heat. I don't > > >> completely understand why but its a fact, at least in my stove. Some of > > >> the heat has to go into the chimney, otherwise you won't be able to > > >> maintain good draft. Outside chimneys might look cool but they suck for > > >> actually burning wood. > > >> > > >> Do you have a pipe coming out of yours you can put a magnetic stove > > >> thermometer on? Without one you'll produce less heat and burn way more > > >> wood since you don't really know whats happening. > > >> > > >> -Curt > > >> > > >> On Tuesday, February 16, 2021, 11:36:05 AM EST, Kaleb Striplin via > > >> Mercedes <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> Got the fire going. Of course it will take a while to start putting off > > >> some heat. Without the doors closed and the blower going, it seems like > > >> it’s probably operating like a regular fireplace with most of the heat > > >> going ok the chimney. > > >> > > >> Sent from my iPhone > > >> > > >> > On Feb 16, 2021, at 10:07 AM, Curt Raymond <[email protected]> > > >> > wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Some of those units do pretty amazing things in the cold these days. > > >> > 10-15 years ago 20F was the practical minimum but I've read of units > > >> > that will still work down to 0F and there are some that probably go > > >> > colder. I suspect efficiency takes a dump at those temps though. > > >> > > > >> > The guy I'm training to run the groomer is an HVAC installer and the > > >> > other night he was telling me that just about nobody is installing > > >> > ground source heat pumps any more due to the huge cost and the > > >> > availability of low temp air source units combined with the low cost > > >> > of natural gas. > > >> > > > >> > I'd considered ground source but the ones I've looked at are $20,000+ > > >> > while a new boiler for our house is more like $6,000 and would > > >> > decrease our oil use 20-25%. It would take a long long time to pay off > > >> > that extra cost. There are incentives but they're decreasing every > > >> > year. > > >> > > > >> > -Curt > > >> > > > >> > On Tuesday, February 16, 2021, 10:46:10 AM EST, Kaleb Striplin via > > >> > Mercedes <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > I don’t know if size matters but it’s a 5 ton unit and even when it > > >> > was in the single digest I could tell it was putting out heat. I could > > >> > tell the difference between when the outside unit was running and when > > >> > it was shut down and only using the aux heat. > > >> > > > >> > Sent from my iPhone > > >> > > > >> > > On Feb 16, 2021, at 9:44 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > > >> > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > There's no point in it running if it can't extract any heat from > > >> > > the air. It's a wonder it was running and putting out much when it > > >> > > got down below 20F or so. > > >> > > > > >> > > --FT > > >> > > > > >> > >> On 2/16/21 10:36 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > > >> > >> Power just came back on a few minutes ago. Outside unit still not > > >> > >> running. I did find the installation manual online though. Here is > > >> > >> some info about the defrost and lockouts. Sounds like it may > > >> > >> simply be locking out because the temp is too low. > > >> > >> > > >> > >> Heating Mode:The compressor and fan motor will stop when the low > > >> > >> pressure control opens and will start again when the low side > > >> > >> pressure rises to approximately 40 psig when the low pressure > > >> > >> automatically resets�If the low pressure switch trips 3 times > > >> > >> within 120 minutes of operation during a particular call for > > >> > >> heating operation, the defrost control will lock out compressor and > > >> > >> outdoor fan operation�If the lock out due to low pressure occurs at > > >> > >> an outdoor ambient temperature below 5°F, the defrost control will > > >> > >> automatically exit the lockout mode when the outdoor ambient > > >> > >> temperature rises 5°F�This feature is necessary since the low > > >> > >> pressure control could possibly have opened due to the outdoor > > >> > >> ambient being very low rather than an actual system fault� > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> Of course with the power being out I figure that would have caused > > >> > >> the lockout to reset at least for a while. 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