I was just thinking about that. I have a clamp on inverter around here 
somewhere. 

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> On Feb 16, 2021, at 12:03 PM, OK Don via Mercedes <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> Is the blower 120V? If so, use an inverter and a car battery to run it. If
> not 120V, use a 12V computer fan like Jim said. Zip tie it in front of the
> intake for the blower.
> 
> Our power was off for an hour this morning, since it was almost exactly an
> hour I assume it was a rolling blackout. It came back on in 3 spurts, but
> has stayed on now for over 3 hours.
> 
> I worry most about the well house freezing up - lots of pipe and two large
> water filters in there. We keep it above freezing with those 500W IR heat
> lamps, two for backup, but when there's no power ...
> 
>> On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 11:40 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> It’s good and hot now. Fire going good, top of it is hot but unfortunately
>> without the blower it does not push much heat into the room. It’s now down
>> to 58 in here  by the maybe it’s putting off enough heat to keep it from
>> dropping faster than without it.
>> 
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>> 
>>>> On Feb 16, 2021, at 11:02 AM, Curt Raymond <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Every year I go through a period of relearning how to get maximum output
>> from the stove. There are a couple rules but its really more an art than a
>> science. The quality of the wood makes a big difference as does outside
>> temps and, to a lesser degree, even wind speed and direction.
>>> 
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>> On Tuesday, February 16, 2021, 11:54:32 AM EST, Kaleb Striplin via
>> Mercedes <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It’s got an air control on each side, I can’t remember if they are
>> pushed in or pulled out to open are flow into it. They were pushed in and
>> it seemed like the fire was dying down with the doors closed so I pulled
>> them out. As I said it’s been a while since I have used this thing.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 16, 2021, at 10:49 AM, Kaleb Striplin <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Nope it’s all contained in the original brick chimney. I closed the
>> doors on it and will see what happens
>>>> 
>>>> I really need to look into a generator or some sort.
>>>> 
>>>> <image0.jpeg>
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 16, 2021, at 10:43 AM, Curt Raymond <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> The doors will probably make more heat, you're losing it up the
>> chimney because its getting too much air.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've got a thermometer on the stove pipe and I'm always interested in
>> the fact that maximum heat is NOT achieved with maximum air. You've got to
>> run a lot of air to get the fire going and to get the stove/chimney warm
>> but then you need to restrict air some to get max heat. I don't completely
>> understand why but its a fact, at least in my stove. Some of the heat has
>> to go into the chimney, otherwise you won't be able to maintain good draft.
>> Outside chimneys might look cool but they suck for actually burning wood.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Do you have a pipe coming out of yours you can put a magnetic stove
>> thermometer on? Without one you'll produce less heat and burn way more wood
>> since you don't really know whats happening.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Curt
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tuesday, February 16, 2021, 11:36:05 AM EST, Kaleb Striplin via
>> Mercedes <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Got the fire going. Of course it will take a while to start putting
>> off some heat. Without the doors closed and the blower going, it seems like
>> it’s probably operating like a regular fireplace with most of the heat
>> going ok the chimney.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 16, 2021, at 10:07 AM, Curt Raymond <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Some of those units do pretty amazing things in the cold these
>> days. 10-15 years ago 20F was the practical minimum but I've read of units
>> that will still work down to 0F and there are some that probably go colder.
>> I suspect efficiency takes a dump at those temps though.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The guy I'm training to run the groomer is an HVAC installer and
>> the other night he was telling me that just about nobody is installing
>> ground source heat pumps any more due to the huge cost and the availability
>> of low temp air source units combined with the low cost of natural gas.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'd considered ground source but the ones I've looked at are
>> $20,000+ while a new boiler for our house is more like $6,000 and would
>> decrease our oil use 20-25%. It would take a long long time to pay off that
>> extra cost. There are incentives but they're decreasing every year.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Curt
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tuesday, February 16, 2021, 10:46:10 AM EST, Kaleb Striplin via
>> Mercedes <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I don’t know if size matters but it’s a 5 ton unit and even when it
>> was in the single digest I could tell it was putting out heat. I could tell
>> the difference between when the outside unit was running and when it was
>> shut down and only using the aux heat.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Feb 16, 2021, at 9:44 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> There's no point in it running if it can't extract any heat from
>> the air.  It's a wonder it was running and putting out much when it got
>> down below 20F or so.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --FT
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 2/16/21 10:36 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>>>>>>>> Power just came back on a few minutes ago.  Outside unit still
>> not running.  I did find the installation manual online though. Here is
>> some info about the defrost and lockouts.  Sounds like it may simply be
>> locking out because the temp is too low.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Heating Mode:The compressor and fan motor will stop when the low
>> pressure control opens and will start again when the low side pressure
>> rises to approximately 40 psig when the low pressure automatically
>> resets�If the low pressure switch trips 3 times within 120 minutes of
>> operation during a particular call for heating operation, the defrost
>> control will lock out compressor and outdoor fan operation�If the lock out
>> due to low pressure occurs at an outdoor ambient temperature below 5°F, the
>> defrost control will automatically exit the lockout mode when the outdoor
>> ambient temperature rises 5°F�This feature is necessary since the low
>> pressure control could possibly have opened due to the outdoor ambient
>> being very low rather than an actual system fault�
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Of course with the power being out I figure that would have
>> caused the lockout to reset at least for a while.  Will see what happens
>> when it gets over 5 this afternoon.
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