Good to know, thanks! I suspect they’re utilizing Github repositories, but I don’t know much more than that - I’ll check. We’re sorely in need of a cloud architect, as the one we had left for lots and lots more $$$. They’re actively recruiting for one, but I wonder how successful we’ll be since we’re government and can’t possibly afford to pay the salaries that the private sector is offering.
-D > On Jun 19, 2021, at 2:57 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > Be sure they aren't committing cloud authentication keys to public > Github repositories. This happened at work and in short order one > researcher's AWS account was charged tens of thousands of dollars. > > Amazon eventually refunded most of it but it was still a hassle for all > involved. > > Github also has processes now that watch for this kind of thing, but I'm > not sure it's foolproof (never underestimate the creativity of a fool). > > Allan > > "dan penoff.com via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> writes: > >> For the benefit of the masses: >> >> Microsoft, like other “cloud” providers, allows you to create or “spin up” >> virtual computers, typically servers, in the cloud with nothing more than a >> few mouse clicks. It’s easy to do and can be done in a matter of minutes. >> This ease in accessibility tends to have customers spinning up servers as >> they please, which is a Good Thing for Microsoft, or Amazon, or whomever the >> cloud provider is. Why? Because they charge you for it - monthly. >> >> Think about this - with a few clicks of a mouse I can have a full blown >> production server provisioned however I like - your choice of operating >> system, RAM, number of processors, drive storage, network interfaces, etc., >> etc. >> >> These are the virtual equivalent of 100s of thousands of dollars of physical >> hardware. The providers charge accordingly. >> >> So it’s easy to see how someone can get out of control with this stuff and >> really go to town. My data scientist geeks are cranking up some very >> powerful virtual machines because they’re crunching data, and lots of it. >> Not only that, they’re installing Microsoft software like SQL (database) >> whose licenses are in the 10s of thousands of dollars a year, if not more. >> >> This just started, so I’m waiting for the accounting folks to go ballistic >> when our next monthly Microsoft invoice comes in for payment. >> >> -D >> >> On Jun 19, 2021, at 10:43 AM, Curt Raymond >> <curtlud...@yahoo.com<mailto:curtlud...@yahoo.com>> wrote: >> >> The first time I hit $2,000 somebody in accounting freaked out. That was the >> first quarter and that was when I realized I needed more compute power for >> my VMs. I'd been using 8GB of RAM but the machines were very unhappy. I find >> it interesting that in my VMWare systems 8GB is adequate, something about >> Azure appears to be less efficient running the same software. >> >> I should note that $2,000/mo is just for my classes, the guy who teaches the >> editing software uses way more, 16 processor cores and 128GB/RAM will do >> that. >> >> -Curt >> >> On Saturday, June 19, 2021, 7:52:47 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes >> <mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote: >> >> >> We currently run an Azure environment. I’ve got a bunch of data scientists >> running their own environment in our tenant and they’re spinning stuff up >> daily. I’ve pointed out that every time they spin up a new instance of >> something the meter is running, but they don’t seem to care. Not sure who’s >> handling the accounting side of their stuff, but this just started a month >> or two ago, so I’m guessing they haven’t gotten the first invoice from >> Microsoft yet. >> >> -D >> >> On Jun 18, 2021, at 10:43 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes >> <mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote: >> >> Cap-ex vs Op-ex. When I first got out of college everything was supposed to >> be cap-ex. Buy hardware so we didn't have to spend people time on stuff. Now >> you're supposed to turn everything into op-ex. I've got a whole bunch of VM >> servers that would be great to train on but rather than getting me a $200/mo >> dedicated internet line we spend $2,000/mo in Microsoft Azure... >> -Curt >> >> On Friday, June 18, 2021, 8:24:46 PM EDT, Jim Cathey via Mercedes >> <mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote: >> >> But eventually someone has to buy the cars, which is less likely if they are >> overpriced. >> >> I'm sure it's some variant of the shit where they will pay more in operating >> costs, often many times over, rather than do a better job up front, because >> it would involve a slightly higher capital cost. "Hey, not MY budget." Even >> if one corporate entity is who is paying ALL costs in the end. >> >> So, how you rig the game will result in how successful it is overall, over >> time. >> Ultimately I'm sure it's why big companies die, and small ones are formed. >> They get ossified and inefficient, and the new small sharks swoop in and >> eat the lunch, and eventually the carcass, of the big fish. Ad infinitum. >> >> -- Jim > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
