I didn't think to check, I was just amused to see it. -Curt
On Friday, March 4, 2022, 02:01:05 PM EST, Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com> wrote: Selling price. On Fri, Mar 4, 2022 at 1:47 PM Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com> wrote: > SP? > > > On Friday, March 4, 2022, 12:48:53 PM EST, Andrew Strasfogel > <astrasfo...@gmail.com> wrote > > > > What was the SP of the whale oi? > > On Fri, Mar 4, 2022 at 12:46 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes > <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> There was a time when people thought it was crazy to pull oil up out of the >> ground and try to refine it, after all you could get all the oil you might >> ever need by boiling it out of whales... >> >> As an aside we went to a gun show last weekend and one of the vendors had >> small cans of whale oil. I didn't see how old they were but I'd guess 50-60 >> years or more. >> >> -Curt >> >> On Friday, March 4, 2022, 11:36:03 AM EST, G Mann via Mercedes >> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> In the middle ages, the holy grail of alchemists was developing the magic >> formula to turn lead into gold. It never worked, but that did not keep rich >> people from funding alchemists to keep trying. >> "Making fuel" from something always involves vast expenditure of time and >> energy which quickly equates to using more energy than you make. >> I think it qualifies for a special Darwin Award for futile endeavors. >> >> On Fri, Mar 4, 2022 at 7:58 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >>> I agree that crops as fuel doesn't make any sense but the future of >>> ethanol/biodiesel is algae based. They grow the algae in tanks fed on the >>> carbon dioxide output of power plants. Its a win-win, capture the carbon >>> (and presumably excess heat) coming out of the power plants and create a >>> usable fuel. >>> >>> -Curt >>> >>> On Friday, March 4, 2022, 09:03:12 AM EST, Allan Streib via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Let's hope not. It's silly and inefficient to use food crops as fuel. That >>> applies to Ethanol as well. >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 3, 2022, at 11:50 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: >>> > Maybe biodiesel will return to the pumps. >>> > >>> > On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 11:37 PM G Mann via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> >>> > wrote: >>> > >>> >> Yes, diesel pickups were and still are abused by using used veg oil. >>> They >>> >> are ruined for the same reasons. >>> >> Used cooking oil is severely contaminated with water, acids, and food >>> >> particles that do not flow throw injection pumps and injectors. Failure >>> to >>> >> remove those contaminants is common with the belief that you just pump >>> the >>> >> waste cooking oil into your diesel tank and drive away for free. >>> >> That does not work. >>> >> Add to those sins the viscosity of veg oil at room temperature [whatever >>> >> ambient temp might be]. >>> >> IF you have clean veg oil, de watered, and acid neutral, it still must >>> be >>> >> pre-heated to between 160F/180F to achieve a flow rate that will support >>> >> atomization at the injector nozzle. Below 160F the nozzles will dribble >>> and >>> >> spew instead of spray crisply. >>> >> The lack of good spray pattern means you do not get good compression >>> >> ignition, thus semi burned veg oil builds carbon globs that stick and >>> stack >>> >> in the combustion chambers, valves, and nozzles. Those chunks of semi >>> >> burned carbon grind the rings and cylinder walls to death. >>> >> Further, the cold veg oil overworks the injector pump, fails to >>> lubricate >>> >> the close tolerance moving parts, and galls them [ruins the IP so it can >>> >> not be rebuilt]. >>> >> So, the answer to your question is.... Yes, diesel trucks are also >>> >> destroyed. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 9:17 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < >>> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> > When oil was $10/bbl did they use it as salad dressing?? >>> >> > >>> >> > On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 10:11 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < >>> >> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >> > >>> >> > > I saw it with older VW diesels also, around here. >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > On Thu, Mar 3, 2022, at 9:59 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: >>> >> > > > Good question. I have only really noticed it with MB diesels. For >>> >> some >>> >> > > > reason people think you can just run them with no maintenance and >>> >> they >>> >> > > > will last a million miles. >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > > Sent from my iPhone >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > >> On Mar 3, 2022, at 8:57 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes < >>> >> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> I wonder if they (veg oil morons) destroy diesel pickups too? >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> Rick >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com >>> >> > > >> Sent: March 3, 2022 8:53 PM >>> >> > > >> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; davesl...@okiebenz.com >>> >> > > >> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com >>> >> > > >> Cc: ka...@striplin.net >>> >> > > >> Subject: [MBZ] It’s 2008 all over again >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> Starting to see posts on Fakebook, and ads for cars for sale, >>> >> talking >>> >> > > about running used cooking oil as fuel. Here we go again. What cars >>> >> were >>> >> > > not destroyed by the first round of cooking oil people, then the >>> hood >>> >> > stack >>> >> > > people, will surely be destroyed by the second round of cooking oil >>> >> > people. >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> Sent from my iPhone >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> _______________________________________ >>> >> > > >> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> >> > > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> _______________________________________ >>> >> > > >> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> >> > > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > > _______________________________________ >>> >> > > > http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> >> > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> > > >>> >> > > _______________________________________ >>> >> > > http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >> > > >>> >> > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >> > > >>> >> > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> >> > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > _______________________________________ >>> >> > http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >> > >>> >> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >> > >>> >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> >> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> _______________________________________ >>> >> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >> >>> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >> >>> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >>> >> >>> > _______________________________________ >>> > http://www.okiebenz.com >>> > >>> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> > >>> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> _______________________________________ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> _______________________________________ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> _______________________________________ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
