See below for day 2 report Somehow it went only to Andrew. For Day 3 I will only add that the fore and aft hobby horsing is super annoying and I dont know what their chassis dynamics people are smoking.
Still have not charged it. No key or off switch still annoying. I leave my kid inside and if I take the key along I am worried it is going to lock him in or some other dumb unforeseen consequence. Headlights are exceptionally good. Very quiet. Sitting parked with all climate stuff still running is handy. ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Karl Wittnebel <atypical...@gmail.com> Date: Thu, Nov 10, 2022, 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] EV kisses. To: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com> Day 2: Driving a Tesla is sort of like having a business partner. You kind of negotiate with it to get it to do what you want, which is usually 3 menus deep. I think if they just simplified this thing and put all the controls for climate and seat heaters and cameras somewhere intuitive, it would be a lot easier to operate. The steering is OK but the chassis dynamics over bumps are truly abysmal. If you get it porpoising it has a fast resonance fore and aft like a car with no suspension. Randy Pobst wrecked one at Pikes Peak two years ago for this reason; when the whole car goes up it has a ton of momentum from the battery and doesnt want to settle back down. He almost wrecked the model S this year for similar reasons; bounced in a corner. Interior quality feels about like a lower end Toyota. It seems like the Ford of electric cars. I see a ton of Audi E-trons here and Taycans and now I know why; the Tesla interior is very average. Fine, but not for 50k. Electrics are still too expensive for what they do. No gas station is definitely a win. Not sure it is worth the headache of this thing. My kid is doing an air particulate project for 6th grade and cars do produce a lot of 2.5 micron particles that are associated with all kinds of poor health outcomes. He is making filters to reduce that stuff and measuring it in the classroom, comparing filter designs. So the electric cars probably win there. Not a big deal outside the city but here there are thousands of cars passing his school twice a day stop and go idling with brake dust etc. So an interesting thing to consider but definitely point source emissions are a plus for the electrics in densely populated areas. Would be fun to try a Lucid Air. But expensive. The Aptera might be cool as a sort of motorcycle substitute. But the Checy Bolt has to be the best deal in electrics for commuting. Another 7500 spif from the feds coming in Jan. On Wed, Nov 9, 2022, 11:42 AM Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com> wrote: > Are those other vehicles you mentioned EV or gas? > > On Wed, Nov 9, 2022 at 2:39 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> The wagon got swiped by some dude at school dropoff, so his insurance is >> paying for me to drive a Tesla for a couple weeks. Model Y. Basic model. >> >> There are some things to get used to, for instance you dont turn the car >> off. You just put it into park and get out and walk away and it locks >> itself up. >> >> The screen is like learning a new software program. Works well for t gh e >> mostpart but not what I am looking for when I get in a car. It would be >> better with some manual a/c controls. >> >> Rarely use the brakes at all. Taking foot off accelerator brings the car >> to >> a halt more aggressively than I usually brake. >> >> The auto steer chirps for no apparent reason sometimes to save me from >> myself I guess. >> >> Handling is like driving a stiffly sprung SUV. Definitely not a luxury >> ride. >> >> Ridiculously quick. I find myself accelerating to speeds I would never >> consider in the diesel between stop signs for example. >> >> The driver assist stuff is all helpful to keep you from running into stuff >> and make you aware of your surroundings. These cars are going to be >> involved in fewer acceidents than normal cars, for sure. >> >> So yes they make speed boring but in general it seems hard to argue with >> it >> for a city car: no point source emissions, quiet, crashworthy, less brake >> dust, cameras all over constantly recording, never go to a gas station or >> get your oil changed. If you dont need a truck and can spend 50k on a car >> there are far dumber vehicles to buy for most americans. Radio is truly >> excellent and kids love the glass roof. >> >> I really want one of those new corolla grx things though. 300hp on 1.6L >> has >> to be some kind of record for a production car and they probably will not >> make them very long. Owning a Lexus gx460 for four years has made me a >> toyota fan. >> >> On Tue, Nov 8, 2022, 5:00 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> > I drove a Tesla model S a couple years ago. Dimitri only says the >> driving >> > experience is insipid because he's never driven one. >> > Curt >> > >> > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >> > >> > On Tue, Nov 8, 2022 at 7:58 PM, OK Don via Mercedes< >> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Well, some of the EVs have kick-ass >> > acceleration, till the battery dies. >> > >> > On Tue, Nov 8, 2022 at 5:55 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < >> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> > >> > > Haha. Well I’m not saying that guys who drive EVs are gay, I’m >> suggesting >> > > that they might be wusses. >> > > >> > > Sent from my iPhone >> > > >> > > > On Nov 8, 2022, at 6:26 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes < >> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> > > > >> > > > are you sure? That appears to be a woman he is kissing. >> > > > >> > > >> On 08/11/2022 5:17 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote: >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> Sent from my iPhone >> > > >> >> > > >> _______________________________________ >> > > >> >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > _______________________________________ >> > > > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > > > >> > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> > > > >> > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > _______________________________________ >> > > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > > >> > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> > > >> > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > >> > > >> > >> > -- >> > OK Don >> > >> > "Quality of life is inversely proportional to the amount of clothing you >> > are wearing." >> > >> > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to >> > pause and reflect." Mark Twain >> > >> > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” >> > Wernher >> > Von Braun >> > 2013 F150, 18 mpg >> > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg >> > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! >> > _______________________________________ >> > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > >> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________ >> > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > >> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > >> > >> _______________________________________ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
