I recall seeing people replacing individual cells on Prius batteries in the past. It looked tedious and time-consuming to troubleshoot, but ultimately a far less expensive venture if it’s just a few cells…
-D > On Dec 11, 2023, at 3:11 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > I'm thinking that EV batteries need to be modules not some monolithic thing, > a cell module goes bad, pop another one like a H8 in and be on your way. > They are just a big pack of like bigger D cells anyway, all linked together, > so it's not like one or some couldn't be replaced. > > --FT > >> On 12/11/23 2:38 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: >> This all supports what I have been saying all along. EVs are essentially >> experimental at this point in time. The "in" people who need to be seen in >> the latest trendy things want one but most of us think they will be more >> trouble than they are worth. We are correct, but, time may well change all >> of that. There is no good reason why EV's cannot become cheaper and less >> expensive to repair. Hopefully also able to go longer distances between >> charges and will charge faster and not overtax the electrical grid as well. >> >> I am not holding my breath on how long all of this might take, but >> technology does move forward all of the time and break-throughs may happen. >> >> I also think the automakers need to find a way to make less expensive cars >> and make them still desirable. I read an article about Henry Ford and the >> early days of the company. They produced more cars faster and lowered the >> price over time. A Model T at the outset cost about $800. By the time they >> stopped producing the Model T, the price was down to $350. That does not >> seem to be the case these days. The average man may soon be unable to afford >> a new car. That won't help the automakers. Who will they sell them to? >> >> My 10 year old F150 would cost at least double what I paid for it if I were >> to replace it now with a new one. In addition, interest rates are higher so >> financing would also be more expensive. If it got wrecked, I might well be >> looking for a beater to replace it. >> >> A new F150 would cost more than we paid for our house. >> >> Randy >> >> >>> On 11/12/2023 12:47 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: >>> But essentially, the life of the battery is the life of the vehicle. It's >>> not cost-effective to replace them. >>> >>> Especially as cars are not engineered for easy battery replacement. In fact >>> the opposite, the battery is designed to be part of the structure of the >>> car. >>> >>> If an EV battery has a life of 10 years and the car is then scrap, then the >>> price of the car when new should be much less than a gasoline car but they >>> are typically priced higher. >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 11, 2023, at 12:02, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: >>>> Anecdotal evidence suggests that EV battery life has been racially >>>> UNDERestimated. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 11:48 AM Allan Streib via Mercedes >>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>> Didn't watch this but if the issue was that the battery pack needed to be >>>>> replaced, that basically totals the car on an EV unless it's under >>>>> warranty. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Dec 11, 2023, at 10:05, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >>>>>> Another reason to not drive an EV? >>>>>> >>>>>> It still comes back to a PPI and due diligence. >>>>>> >>>>>> -D >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Dec 11, 2023, at 9:34 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes >>>>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEV1nNWmBKg >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> --FT >>>>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>>> >>>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>>> >>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>> >>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>> >>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> _______________________________________ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > -- > --FT > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
