It’s the million mile engine 

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> On Dec 17, 2023, at 10:04 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> My '85 300SD has the 617 engine, right?  I don't believe there is any
> theoretical limit to its longevity.
> 
>> On Sun, Dec 17, 2023 at 7:57 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> yes great list of diesel engines. I have had 616, 617, & 602.
>> 
>> On Sun, Dec 17, 2023, 7:22 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Seems like OM615, 616, 617, 601, 602, 603 and 606 are the way to go…..
>>> 
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>>> 
>>>> On Dec 17, 2023, at 9:23 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> The OM251 has the timing chain at the rear. I have heard they have a
>>> problem stretching and breaking.
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>>> On Dec 16, 2023, at 11:25 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Oil cooler issues have never arisen in either my E250 or GLK 250.
>>> This is
>>>>> only a problem in the 6 cylinder models, e.g. ML 350 Bluetec..
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 16, 2023 at 10:17 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I agree, an older mechanical diesel is still desirable but the newer
>>> ones
>>>>>> with DEF and emissions crap and computers required to run them I
>> would
>>>>>> avoid. They are really only suitable for drivers who need to make
>>> frequent
>>>>>> long highway trips. If you're driving infrequently and/or on mostly
>>> short
>>>>>> errands they are the wrong choice.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 16, 2023, at 17:36, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
>>>>>>> Or simply stick with a gasser.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I mean really is there the old school advantages to having a diesel
>>> any
>>>>>>> more, especially it you look at things like oil cooler seals and DEF
>>>>>>> crapola?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> AZBob
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Dec 16, 2023, at 2:33 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Forgot to mention, stick to pre 2009 e class or pre 2008 ML/GL to
>>>>>> avoid DEF.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Dec 16, 2023, at 1:30 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> There is a metric crap load of BlueTecs for sale out here right
>>> now,
>>>>>> many of them reasonably priced.
>>>>>>>>> Steer clear?
>>>>>>>>> I watched a video from Hoovie’s friend, The Wizard. He  maintains,
>>>>>> that among Mercedes SUVs, your best choice it’s a 2012 ML 350.
>>>>>>>>> The search for a replacement for my pick up is going to be
>>> deliberate.
>>>>>> I’m not entirely convinced that I need a pick up truck, especially if
>>> I get
>>>>>> some type of an M class with a hitch you can always borrow or rent a
>>>>>> trailer.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Here we go.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> AZBob
>>>>>> 
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