I took the commuter from Boston to Halifax once, beautiful here during takeoff lousy weather in Halifax, blew at least one tire on landing. I don't know what the plane was but we were coming in and suddenly one wingtip took a dive, as I say at least one tire on that side let go, sounded like a cannon. I was on that side of the plane and saw tire bits shoot out. We got down and stopped by the end of the runway but only just... -Curt Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 23:40:16 -0500 From: Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Gear up landing To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
That sounds like almost as much fun as sitting in a 727 on final approach as it flies into a microburst -- damned plane FELL onto the runway even though i swear I heard the throttles hit the full power stop -- bounced off one gear (SOP for a 727 hard landing I've since learned -- keeps the gear on and the fuel inside the feel lines...) -- all the over head compartments popped open and all the stuff fell out, and I swear the cabin twisted at least 10 degrees. Freefall on final approach is scary! If you've not flown on a 727, they flare up quite a bit just before the gear touches because the engines are so heavy and all in the rear. That's the exact moment when we got the "tailwind". Bounced once more on the other gear (right side if I remember correctly), then on both gears and finally landed. Pilot dropped the nose and gave it full reverse thrust and full brakes -- something to experience, since a 727 has a roll-out at full landing weight of 1500 ft. Face in the seatback in front of you, arms fully extended. Brief cases and crap sliding down the aisle and all. I think we were getting short on runway. We (including the pilot, I think) got off, walked around a bit, got back on and finished the trip. Quite a flier, didn't even blow a tire (been on a 727 that did that once, too). Thought for sure he was gonna cartwheel that sucker, wingtip only missed the ground by a couple feet. Peter --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Aug 03 13:22:29 2006 Received: from mxa.windwireless.net ([199.164.167.40]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G8d9h-0006tM-2z for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 13:22:29 +0000 Received: from dogear.com (jimc.progress.wi-fi.windwireless.net [206.63.94.197] (may be forged)) by mxa.windwireless.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id k73DMxZW005649; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 06:22:59 -0700 Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 06:22:22 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) X-Virus-Scan: smtp-vilter X-SMTP-Vilter-Version: 1.1.0rc2 X-SMTP-Vilter-Backend: Clam AntiVirus Daemon (clamd) X-SMTP-Vilter-Status: clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0rc4 (mxa.windwireless.net [199.164.167.40]); Thu, 03 Aug 2006 06:22:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240d vacuum troubleshooting questions.. X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com> List-Unsubscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: </pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com> List-Post: <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 13:22:29 -0000 > After reading Jim's reply yesterday I had a look at the situation in > the > trunk again. With the lines connected correctly to the trunk lock > diaphram, the system can't hold a vacuum. From the diagram that Craig > sent, it looks like the next place to look is the master switch in the > driver's door. The next place to look is at the trunk actuator diaphragm that you'd had disconnected before! Put the MityVac on each of the ports to the actuator, it needs to be able to hold vacuum on both of them or it's broken. Plug the hose that went to that port with a golf tee and see if the rest of the system works right and holds vacuum. -- Jim