From: "Trampas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I have broken and drilled a few in my time. My car still has long bolts, but > I use anti-seize, yea, yea complain all you want but I have never broken a > bolt that I installed.
Yep, but the key is "that I installed"... This was done by some teenage weenie with a thundergun who thinks he ought to be in a nascar pit but is stuck working at some tire shop. Hence, I'm rectifying the situation since I have twisted a couple , but none off (yet) -j. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jan 16 13:43:53 2007 Received: from web32810.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.40]) by server8.arterytc8.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1H6obR-0002Mc-LO for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:43:53 +0000 Received: (qmail 9457 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Jan 2007 13:39:23 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: ngMmbJAVM1lOU.HJqR5bpMhNF1te7mPLq2wQE.7uMvR0MLa3vrHEiOcbwVStUIJL0mpHly_8_gRJktTXP9dF8uf9VlYxL0eLDP71qUsj5xTElVNRm2v5xXvB1_bTrVJRpcIIMvxcfa5sJKQ- Received: from [198.51.119.130] by web32810.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 05:39:23 PST Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 05:39:23 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Diesel List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp1 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Passat Jetta Country of Manufacture quick X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com> List-Unsubscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: </pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com> List-Post: <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:43:54 -0000 The Swedes know cold... So do the Germans for that matter, its not all lowland country. The Swiss drive alot of German cars and they KNOW cold too. When I was born my Mom had a VW type 3 fastback. They lived in northern Maine and she likes to say that the week I was born it never got above -35F, thats -37C... Had a propane heater in the car for heat as the aircooled VW heat was in no way up to it. We're supposed to see low single digits tonight. I was at the hardware store last weekend and happened to spot a christmas light timer on sale, picked it up so tomorrow the 190D should be nicely warmed when I'm ready to go. -Curt Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 15:59:06 -0600 From: "Zoltan Finks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Passat Jetta Country of Manufacture quick question To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed If nout Euro, then what type are you thinking might better handle cold? I have this notion that Saabs are built for the cold. This is a topic of interest to me here in Minnesota. Brian On 1/15/07, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I agree. There's cold-cold and then there's WINNIPEG cold. It's > probably too much to expect Euro cars to handle the kind of temps you > all were enjoying last week (-35 C). > --------------------------------- Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jan 16 13:49:19 2007 Received: from web32807.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.37]) by server8.arterytc8.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1H6ogg-0002ZB-Tz for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:49:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 51313 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Jan 2007 13:44:44 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: n6Jb3XMVM1ljF2Xurd71XQUX_HNWymLWJRbNPaCH4jsjAoqUBdj43pjrbkoWopo_tN1NeW48Dpcb3eyex5ozg44agWh7Xw6.XESFb3zF_4Sxy8YvEsh5gbE8ZBNQFjUm_lKXRhkLLuHExbs- Received: from [198.51.119.130] by web32807.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 05:44:44 PST Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 05:44:44 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Diesel List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp1 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Passat Jetta Country of Manufacture quick question X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com> List-Unsubscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: </pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com> List-Post: <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:49:21 -0000 I re-read the original post. I think that the reasoning for most cars being off the road is people unprepared with either crappy tires or water in their gas. Fuel injected cars today will tolerate much worse gas than years ago while still performing reasonably well so I bet people don't use drygas like they used to. An iced gas line will stop a car totally dead with no regard to how good a "winter car" it is. Which reminds me, as its supposed to get really cold tonight (2F tomorrow if weather.com is to be believed) I think I'll put some iso alcohol in the vehicles tonight. -Curt Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 18:19:26 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Passat Jetta Country of Manufacture quick question To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" That would seem a bit strange to see since I am on my second Passat and have never had any problems in the cold with it. Even when the temps dipped to way below zero it still started and I was never left stranded. They are built for the cold, at least the two I owned were Harry 69 280 SEL 135,000 Miles 72 350SL 118,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata --------------------------------- Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jan 16 13:53:58 2007 Received: from web32801.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.31]) by server8.arterytc8.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1H6olB-0002mY-IB for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:53:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 22990 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Jan 2007 13:49:27 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 6I6rmykVM1lDapa4cE.YM.UlpGMM25eiSA3z.R4MI3xCbj56dTHKP2p1_onseRwXZ03gVCTuv8bX9_1U7NNbbiW5x5qkuXmwI4QzGe9vhHrZEp55kHnjcQw1LHvszXO0MnWpdm2pisZjSYTr9PEXNBfhcFLgkXsE4Va3xeNFCn3s52M2nVCQCwijOqkN Received: from [198.51.119.130] by web32801.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 05:49:27 PST Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 05:49:27 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Diesel List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp1 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Boot and connect time X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com> List-Unsubscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: </pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com> List-Post: <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:53:58 -0000 Uhh, Mepis Linux 6.0-1.... No problems... -Curt Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 19:12:57 -0500 (EST) From: "John W. Reames III" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Boot and connect time To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > My wife's G4 is up 70 seconds from the press of the button...>> > > > Perhaps I should have said more specifically "the elapsed time from pressing > the on button on the box to the AOL voice announcement "you've got mail" is > 1:15. This wouldn't happen on dialup but since I'm using Comcast high-speed > things are quick. Yep thats about right.. hers is doing osx 10.4.8 and is 70 secs, so 75 isnt too far off ;) > Or was there another point you had? Nope that was it When is the last time you booted a 5 year old PC with the NEWEST pc os and had ANYTHING (let alone a desktop with your apps started) in 75 seconds? Heck will they even pass the windows banner in 75 seconds? And out of sleep is sub-5-seconds. I'm impressed! -j. --------------------------------- The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jan 16 13:58:21 2007 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.169]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1H6opQ-0002sw-Pf for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:58:21 +0000 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id s2so1542799uge for <mercedes@okiebenz.com>; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 05:53:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.179.9 with SMTP id b9mr1110648buf.1168955627437; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 05:53:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.141.5 with HTTP; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 05:53:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 08:53:47 -0500 From: "dave walton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] front lug bolts 300SDL X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com> List-Unsubscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: </pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com> List-Post: <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:58:21 -0000 I've been greasing the lug nuts/bolts on all my cars for the last 40 years. Haven't had one fall off yet. I use anti-seize now because it is more politically correct that lithium grease. Same idea though. I do check that they are snug now and then. -Dave Walton On 1/16/07, Trampas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have broken and drilled a few in my time. My car still has long bolts, but > I use anti-seize, yea, yea complain all you want but I have never broken a > bolt that I installed. > > Trampas > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of John W. Reames III > Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 5:28 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] front lug bolts 300SDL > > On Mon, 15 Jan 2007, Werner Fehlauer wrote: > > And I suspect the bolts can stand a lot of abuse, because I've never had > one > > fail, even after I've undone a severely over-tightened one and then > > re-torqued it properly. The M-B bolts would probably withstand 150-200 > > lb-ft and still not fail, IMO. > > I've got to test this; I twisted the end off of a 1/2x3/8 "husky" adapter > trying to remove lug bolts that this happened to. A week of PB blaster and > a lot of prayer, and I will reconvene next weekend. I felt the bolt start > to twist, and saw the head kick sideways in the hole a little. I ordered > new shorty bolts. > -j. > > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >