Read 'em again, you said valves set 10k ago not me. You don't set valves in 60x
engines...
In actually I think I've come to yet another possibly bad conclusion but lets
review my tests so far:
Yesterday morning ~0F, easy start no problems. I thought this was due to
loosening the fuel cap because:
Yesterday afternoon ~10F, cap on tight, hard start, had to hold the pedal.
BUT
This morning, ~5F, cap on tight, easy start no problems...
Thats when I remembered, Sunday night I changed the spread on the timer that
activates my block heater. Now instead of 5:30-7am (when I leave)
its going 4:30-7am. It would seem the extra time is getting us over some hump
into easy starting territory.
This makes me think maybe I've got a glowplug not doing its job. Thus while
ordering other stuff from Rusty today I got a new set. Who knows when the ones
in there were replaced last?
Tonight after work I'll loosen the fuel cap which I think will help not at
all...
-Curt
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 09:09:13 -0500
From: "Werner Fehlauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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OK, Curt - I was just quoting the good doctor in the generic causes of
hard
starting - and valve adjustment is high on his list. But since the
original
message said "valve adjustment 10k miles ago", what was done in this
"nothing to set" engine?
Werner
----- Original Message -----
From: "Curt Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>
> 190D Werner, hydralic valves, nothing to set...
>
> Scoff though you might when I left work last night it started
lousy...
> More testing is needed I think as I'd run the block heater yesterday
> morning. Tonight when I leave work I'll loosen the cap.
>
>
> -Curt
>
> Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 13:44:06 -0500
> From: "Werner Fehlauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Will not start
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> Curt - I think that its pretty unlikely that loosening the filler cap
> at the
> tank would have any effect on starting, as there is so much fuel in
the
> filter, pre-filter, IP, and injector lines - all of which would have
to
> be
> used before any "new" fuel from the tank would get to the injectors.
> I would look first at what Marshall has stated consistently:
winterized
> fuel; proper valve adjustment, working glow plugs. And with a valve
> adjustment 10k miles ago, that's 2/3 of the way to needing the next
> one!
> Actually, if the last one was done just a bit "off", extreme cold
> weather
> could very well show that up, too.
>
> Werner
> '90D
> '83SD
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Curt Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 1:31 PM
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>
>
>>
>> Actually...
>> My 190D has been starting harder than I like. Its been cold so I
>> attributed it to that and bought some Power Service.
>> Zero difference...
>> It got so I'd have to hold onto the go pedal and it'd catch but if I
> let
>> off the pedal within 30 seconds it'd die.
>>
>> This morning I was inspired and opened the fuel cap. Instant easy
> start.
>>
>> I drive an hour each way to work. So the fuel in the tank must be
> getting
>> pretty nicely warmed up. Over night it cools to -1F (or whatever)
and
>> creates some vacuum in the tank.
>> The engine can pull hard enough to over come the vacuum and pop the
> vent
>> in the cap but it doesn't like doing it when its cold...
>>
>> Eureka, now to deal with that vent.
>>
>> -Curt
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--
Clay
Seattle Bioburner
1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
